RE: FW: OT: Microsoft drop more Itanic support
From: Main, Kerry (Kerry.Main_at_hp.com)
Date: 11/11/05
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Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 19:50:40 -0500
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JF Mezei [mailto:jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com]
> Sent: November 10, 2005 7:02 AM
> To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com
> Subject: Re: FW: OT: Microsoft drop more Itanic support
>
> "Main, Kerry" wrote:
> > IBM (Power), MIPS and Compaq (Alpha) dropped Windows as
> they did all the
> > more painful OS porting work
>
> Politics. Fact is that Windows NT was available on MIPS and
> PowerPC and
> support was widthdranw. You say it was SGI for MIPS and IBM for Power
> (why not Apple ?), I say it is Microsoft. It doesn't really matter who
> really made the decision and who made the announcement, fact is that
> support was widthdrawn, partly because it was never high
> enough volume.
>
Volume was only part of the reason. OS license issues was another big
issue. When a company like IBM or Compaq has to invest in facilities,
people, developers and tools, but get zero OS license or OS support
revenue i.e. HW only, you have to expect that eventually there will be
issues.
Especially since back then, a significant part of the Windows kernel was
x86 macro code stuff, so porting to another platform was no easy feat.
IBM got out early - perhaps they saw the writing on the wall.
> MS isn't about to support and pay for continued support on a platform
> that isn't growing and expanding its market niche.
>
Mmm... What support costs did they have other than a few of their BO
products like Exchange, SQL Server etc.? IBM, Compaq etc paid for all
the facilities, people, tools, packaging, marketing for creating and
supporting Windows on their specific platforms. All Microsoft did was
collect the OS license revenue. Not much risk there.
And keep in mind that Microsoft really likes to promote their OS as
"multi-platform", so they do have that aspect to lose. Certainly the
Linux camp makes a really big deal about this when they are beating up
Windows.
> > As far as I know (but wiling to be corrected), IA64 and
> x86-64 are the
> > first 64bit platforms where Microsoft is doing the Windows OS
> > down-n-dirty porting work.
>
> Maybe. Maybe not. When you consider the type of sweet deals Intel gave
> Digital/compaq to kill Alpha and port VMS to that IA64 thing, do you
> reall think that Hp/Intel didn't give MS some sweat deal to contribute
> to porting Windows to that IA64 thing ?
>
Wow, the black helicopters are out in force now .. You really are giving
Microsoft way to much credit in terms of their influence.
:-)
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