Re: HP : Massive strike and protest march today

David J Dachtera wrote:
> AEF wrote:
> >
> > David J Dachtera wrote:
> > > AEF wrote:
> > > > [snip]
> > >
> > > I'm intentionally posting this as a separate reply to side-step the
> > > S/N...
> > >
> > > (I'm trying to helpful here, so retract your fangs, 'k?)
> >
> > Hmmmm. You're the one laughing at us with that cruel Noel bit.
> >
> > > Consider the tone of your replies, and THEN the content.
> >
> > To quote Mick Jagger, he said something like when people are polite to
> > me, I'm polite to them. If they're nasty, I'm nasty back. I try to err
> > on the nice side as if all people went all out to get what they insist
> > is fair, there'd certainly be huge areas of disagreement, which gives
> > us the world we have. Everyone needs to give a little.
> >
> > > You display a serious "victim" paradigm. Not at all uncommon - in fact,
> > > it's actually the norm in much of society, but just the same it's not
> > > especially healthy, either (200+ million wrongs don't make a right).
> > >
> > > What would *I* do in the face a mass-transit outage, especially if the
> > > duration was expected to be protracted?
> > >
> > > I'd find a way to deal with it. Sure, I'd bitch, moan, "kvetch" (as
> > > Larry G. likes to say), etc., but then I'd get down to the task at hand:
> > > figuring out what to do next.
> > >
> > > I'm sure the end result would be less than ideal, of that I am 100%
> > > certain. But, the result I'd achieve would certainly be MORE ideal than
> > > the result of complaining, lashing out and otherwise playing the victim.
> > >
> > > Find the serenity to accept what you cannot change.
> > >
> > > Find the courage to change what you CAN change.
> > >
> > > The wisdom to know the difference will come to you naturally, even if it
> > > is ultimately a hard-learned lesson.
> > >
> > > (Non-religious variation on "The Serenity Prayer", (C)2005 by David J
> > > Dachtera, All Rights Reserved.)
> >
> > That's why the Taylor Law was enacted.
>
> Sorry - didn't get the connection.

Change what you can: The Taylor Law was that change. Unfortunattely,
there are still strikes from time to time, but that is in part because
the law is not strictly enforced. The NY Post had some stuff to say in
this respect.

>
> How does taking control of your own life compare to a law that denies
> the constitutional rights of the work force under the guise of
> "protecting the greater good"? (Hint to students of mid-20th-century
> history, especially that of central Europe: does this sound at all
> familiar?)

I take issue with your premise. It is criminal what the TWU did, but
the unions have a bit of a stranglehold on NYC for various reasons (see
yesterday's NY Post column by Adam Brodsky about this. I don't think
anyone has a constitutional right to cause hugely disproportional harm
to those who are worse off in an effort to extort more for themselves
from those same worse-off people they work for: the riding public.

I'm really tired of this. You keep saying the union has the right to
"fairness" and we keep telling you they are already well past fair and
are themselves being very unfair to the rest of us. Tell us, David, why
it's okay for the union to be grossly unfair to us?

Here it is, but you'll have to register (but the column is free for a
week I think).

http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/59574.htm

What the TWU did with its strike is similar to what the CEO does when
he steals pension money from his work force through fraud. Except what
the TWU did is extortion. Strangely, the NY Times said the union got
pretty much the same deal it would have had if they had not struck
while the (NY) Daily News and NY Post said they got something a little
more. The MTA won on health benefits, perhaps, but the union won on
pension.

The NY Post column I refer to says the Taylor Law actually allows the
MTA to fire the union workers. The previous law REQUIRED them to be
fired. But these provisions are never enforced for various silly
reasons. See the column for details.

I'm wondering why the buisnesses that lost so much money in this strike
don't sue the TWU. Does anyone know?

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