Re: OT: Mozilla/Firefox (was:Re: Windoze ends year with a major cert ...)


Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER wrote:
> In article <1136008191.090269.32670@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "AEF" <spamsink2001@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
> >Firefox and Mozilla are different browsers?
>
> Yes, but they are relatives. Both (and more) are from http://www.mozilla.org
> Mozilla is a suite of browser, mail/news client, IRC client and HTML editor.
> Firefox is a (small=fast) browser only, thunderbird a mail/news client only.
> Mozilla (suite) is what was formerly existing as netscape navigator gold.

So Mozilla is both the suite and the browser in that suite and Firefox
is a standalone from the same organization. Why isn't the standalone
browser the same as the suite browser?

>
> > On my PC at home: The
> >shortcut is Mozilla Firefox. The title bar says Mozilla Firefox Start
> >Page - Mozilla Firefox. The Help About title bar says About Mozilla
> >Firefox. In the window it says Firefox version 1.0.
>
> Mozilla is both. The organization and the browser suite (the internal name
> of netscape if you like). There is even the newer http://www.mozilla.com now.

Please don't bring Netscape into this. That only makes it more
confusing. And now there's a com AND org? WHY?

>
> Current is Mozilla V1.7.12, Firefox V1.5, Thunderbird V1.0.7 (and V1.5 in RC2)
>
> >And now your telling me that there is Mozilla, and then there's
> >Firefox. I don't think it's confusing enough!!! ;-) Please clarify.
> >(And who are SWB?)
>
> SWB (or CSWB) is the (Compaq) Secure Web Browser. This means, the ported
> and supported by VMS engineering version of the mozilla suite (not firefox).
> Just as NETSCAPE V2 & V3 was many years ago. The current version is V1.7-11
>
> See http://www.openvms.digital.com/openvms/products/ips/cswb/
>
> >Well, I have Mozilla Firefox 1.0, or Firefox 1.0, or I really don't
> >know what the hell I have in the context of your post! The start page
> >says Firefox 1.5 is ready (is that Firefox or Mozilla). Maybe I'll try
> >that and report back, but not now. Oh, I see: Firefox is really
> >Firefox, unless it's Mozilla. and vice versa! unless it's not. So tell
> >me who's on first.
>
> You sound unwilling not unable...

I don't want to spend a lot of time with stuff that everyone says is
wonderful but when I get it I find it to be instead a PITA. With IE
I've already learned its quirks and can live with it and for me it is
better than Firefox 1.0. I'll have to try Firefox 1.5 but I am inclined
to believe that it won't address any of my complaints. Then I'll have
to download the entire Mozilla suite and mess with that. More time
possibly wasted to only find that I prefer IE after all. There are
things I hate about IE, but I still find it better than Firefox 1.0.
It's a little like QWERTY vs. Dvorak. I'd love to try the Dvorak
keyboard, except that I hear there is a considerable learning curve and
then you are stuck using only your own stuff or have to become
"ambidextrous" with the two styles.

AEF

>
> --
> Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER
> Network and OpenVMS system specialist
> E-mail peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> A-1030 VIENNA AUSTRIA I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist

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