Re: OT: Mozilla/Firefox (was:Re: Windoze ends year with a major cert ...)

In article <1136042848.340473.60300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "AEF" <spamsink2001@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
>Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER wrote:
>> In article <1136008191.090269.32670@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "AEF" <spamsink2001@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
>> >Firefox and Mozilla are different browsers?
>>
>> Yes, but they are relatives. Both (and more) are from http://www.mozilla.org
>> Mozilla is a suite of browser, mail/news client, IRC client and HTML editor.
>> Firefox is a (small=fast) browser only, thunderbird a mail/news client only.
>> Mozilla (suite) is what was formerly existing as netscape navigator gold.
>
>So Mozilla is both the suite and the browser in that suite and Firefox
>is a standalone from the same organization. Why isn't the standalone
>browser the same as the suite browser?

Don't know. And just to confuse you, MOZILLA is still the browser with more
settings to select. I would like to love firefox, but as long as it doesn't
run on VMS (and still has fewer controls) it will loose against MOZILLA here.
btw MOZILLA and Firefox do share _a lot_ of code...

>Please don't bring Netscape into this. That only makes it more
>confusing.

Not if you already lived in the internet a decade ago.

I'm with e-mails since 1-Mar-1983 (Mail-11, not SMTP ;-) and with internet
since 6-Apr-1991 (IP, not UUCP). My first browser was NCSA MOSAIC sometime
1994. It was free. Not so the NETSCAPE browser we bought in hundreds a few
years later. Another few years later NETSCAPE became free too (the browser,
the webserver was never free, but some more years later was obsoleted by M$)
It's a shame that I don't remember my first webserver then in 1994 now...

> And now there's a com AND org? WHY?

That's called marketing. Some people love to try .COM URLs first.

>> You sound unwilling not unable...
>
>I don't want to spend a lot of time with stuff that everyone says is
>wonderful but when I get it I find it to be instead a PITA. With IE
>I've already learned its quirks and can live with it and for me it is
>better than Firefox 1.0. I'll have to try Firefox 1.5 but I am inclined
>to believe that it won't address any of my complaints. Then I'll have
>to download the entire Mozilla suite and mess with that. More time
>possibly wasted to only find that I prefer IE after all. There are
>things I hate about IE, but I still find it better than Firefox 1.0.
>It's a little like QWERTY vs. Dvorak. I'd love to try the Dvorak
>keyboard, except that I hear there is a considerable learning curve and
>then you are stuck using only your own stuff or have to become
>"ambidextrous" with the two styles.

Run your browser on VMS and you only have the choice of SWB - which is
MOZILLA - (and some more but unfortunately non-current browsers like
MOSAIC, LYNX, NETSCAPE Navigator Gold V3.03, ... you surely love to hate)

Happy Newyear

--
Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER
Network and OpenVMS system specialist
E-mail peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
A-1030 VIENNA AUSTRIA I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist
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