Re: OT: Mozilla/Firefox (was:Re: Windoze ends year with a major cert ...)



AEF wrote:
> So Mozilla is both the suite and the browser in that suite and Firefox
> is a standalone from the same organization. Why isn't the standalone
> browser the same as the suite browser?

> Please don't bring Netscape into this. That only makes it more
> confusing. And now there's a com AND org? WHY?

Simple: Netscape corp used the Mozilla source code. When Netscape
started to vanish, it decided to make this open sourced, fulfilling some
long promise. Mozilla organsiation was formed to take over what was
essentially netscape communicator. (browser, mail, news, composer and a
few other things).

Mozilla is the open sourced netscaped fixed to to be more current.

But Mozilla suffered major bloat. They got funding to produced a scaled
down more efficient browser to fit on smaller devices. Firefox was born.

> wonderful but when I get it I find it to be instead a PITA. With IE
> I've already learned its quirks and can live with it and for me it is
> better than Firefox 1.0.

Nobody is forcing you to stop using IE. It is like underwear, you wear
what you like and what is comfortable to you.

However, consider this: There are web standards. Microsoft deviates from
standards on purpose. And it is not right to support this tactic. The
more people use standarsd complaint browser, the more web designers will
have to ignore the Microsoft non-standard extensions and code their web
site properly. The more thsi happens, the less MS software will be used
to generate non-compliant HTML.

This si why it is important to send messages to those in charge of
corporate web sites telling them that they shoudl adhere to established standards.

When anyone comlains that I have an old web browser, my response is as follows:

If you adhered to web standards, I wouldn't be on the phone with you
because your pages would either work for me, or I would know that they
are not working because of my old browser. But as long as your web site
is error laden, you need to get complaints to awaken you to the fact
that it is your web site that is non compliant.

The best one I saw was Reuters. The page telling me that they refuse to
serve me content because my browser wdid not adhere to web standards was
full of HTML errors !!!! Perhaps they shoudl start to adhere to the
standards before refusing to serve content to users.
.



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