Re: OT: Mozilla/Firefox (was:Re: Windoze ends year with a major cert ...)

Bill Gunshannon wrote: 
In article <11rdiu5s9n1v2da@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
	Dave Froble <davef@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

Bill Gunshannon wrote:

In article <11rcjfeob81pu40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
	Dave Froble <davef@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:


Bill Gunshannon wrote:


In article <43B5B9F7.70401@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
	BRAD <bradhamilton@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:



Rich Jordan wrote:



Happiness is...
  three different coworkers coming to my little cube and asking me
nicely if they might use my Alphastation to do some browsing; due to
the research going on they have to visit some oddball sites and just
didn't feel comfortable doing it on their fancy peecees just now...
(and no its not porn, but some searches lead to eastern European and
Asian sites).

  Now at least two of them want to try Firefox after exposure to
Mozilla ;)  They know its not a security cure-all but the tabs sure are
nice...

It continues to amaze me that so many people have not heard of (or do not use) Mozilla/Firefox - people who consider themselves "internet-savvy". It sure makes surfing easier and safer. I guess too many folks are used to beating themselves over the head with Internet Exploder, and have gotten used to the dull ache of Windows. 


It could also be because so many sites are programming to the IE model
and other browsers just don't work.  And, like it or not, the job must
get done and if it requires IE, well that is what you have to use.
Not saying it's right or wise, just reality.

Some of the solution to that is for every user that has a problem to complain to the webmaster or whoever. Enough squeeky wheels and some lube may become available.



Like I said above, reality check time. The university has contracted
it's web design out to a third party.  Users on the web have no access
to (or even the ability to identify) this entity.  So the only person
you can complain to has no control over it.  That's reality.  The choice
of IE support to the detriment of all other browsers is as much industry
standard as the x86 architecture, that's reality.  Squeek all you want,
this is yert another place where MS has won and all the squeeking in the
world won't change it until MS is supplanted as the industry standard.

bill


There are many things in this world where people may feel that nothing can be done. However, consider the following, "PA legislature pay raise". 


Trust me, they'll get their money before their done.  That's politics.
But the only reason they backed down was the threat of the loss of their
very lucrative positions.

One of the locals tried to convince people that it would cost more if he was voted out of office. He'd get his pension, and the new guy would also get paid.

Do you honestly think a bunch of whining web
users are going to unseat Microsoft from it's position of world domination?
I didn't vote them into that position and I don't  have the power to vote
them back out.

bill


No, but web sites could be convinced to run their stuff through that web site that checks html for conforming to standards.

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