Re: HP, Intel becoming laughing stock of computer industry

Alan Greig wrote:
> FredK wrote:
>
> > Outside of a very small corner of the world, this isn't a universal belief.
> > From a practical standpoint, Itanium is as likely to go away or be dead end
> > as HP is to shut down HP-UX.
>
> An HP-UX customer I am aware of had/has about one thousand HP-UX
> workstations and dozens of HP-UX servers. During recent upgrade planning
> HP initially advised the workstations be replaced with HP Opteron based
> workstations running Linux and the back end database/file servers remain
> HP-UX with future Itanium upgrades. The vendor of the key application
> has now terminated their HP-UX Itanium port (after all it required
> Itanium workstations) and although that CAD/CAM product doesn't run on
> the back end server, it has killed any prospect there might have been
> for Itanium back-ends. As well as a Linux port there is also a Windows
> version. Ironically the company concerned evaluated the Windows client
> on Alpha several years ago and Compaq lost the potential of up to 1000
> XP 1000 workstations (they blew away the HP-UX workstations) by
> cancelling the Windows port then cancelling the chip itself.
>
> The company is now replacing all its HP-UX workstations and servers with
> Windows X64 desktops and servers. They have a lot of experience with
> Windows servers so its not a case of they don't know what they are
> doing and it won't all be done in one go. They also know it's the one
> platform not likely to vanish from under them any time soon and they are
> happy they can make the solution work even if it wasn't their first choice.
>
> HP seems happy enough with the outcome as it still sells the desktop and
> server hardware (for the time being anyway...). I wonder how many times
> this will repeat in the future with heavy users of HP-UX workstations.

Many times most likely. I have another and *much* larger example.
Ericsson who used to be a big Sun shop has a major project (company
wide) of replacing all their Sun Sparc workstations to Linux x86. The
result is that also most, if not all, of their servers will be non-Sun
too (the servers are on on many different platforms today.)

Linux/Windows x86 is the only real option for workstations today,
and most low-end servers too for that matter.

.

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