Re: Telnet over WAN latency troubleshooting



John,
thanks for replying. For the time being we're holding; the ISP
has indicated that Bellsouth has acknowledged the problem and is
working on it. We don't have any further info at this point.

Right now we don't have any peecees or other systems capable og
being an SNMP browser at the remote sites, and nobody really capable of
installing or running one at the central location. I can probably open
up an SNMP rule on the firewall central site firewall and let the Alpha
do the very basic browsing that the tools VMS comes with is capable of,
but thats it.

The purpose of trying the ping tests to the intervening routers
was to see if we could localize the latency to one box, or one
connection; we were not able to do that. However thats a good point
about the traffic shaping capability, even though for traffic within
the tunnel they should not be aware of the traffic type... of course
they could be downgrading the tunnel traffic priority too.

We're running Sonicwall firewalls at each location. These
firewalls provide IPSec VPN site to site tunnels. We have tried
bypassing the tunnels completely by turning them off and setting up
telnet 'holes' in the central site firewall for the users to come in
directly; we also tried leaving the tunnels up and having some users go
through the tunnel and others go outside of it.

The applications in question are good old fashioned SMG based
screen apps on VT terminals. The lag is expecially noticeable when
typing in larger fields, when scrollable regions scroll, and on screen
refresh/updates. There is no question about system latency; local
users, and the one or two remote terminals left on the MUXservers due
to the problems are running fast and clean. Flow control is XON/XOFF,
just as it was on the DECmuxes.

We have telnetted to the DECservers and then telnetted back out,
either to the customer central site or our own location. When we go to
the customer site, the latency is very obvious; when we telnet back to
our own system (yet another telnet hole in the firewall) its present
but not as bad subjectively... but then I haven't had time to run a
side-by-side test either. Our own telnet access to the customer system
(through another tunnel) runs nicely. No comm analyzer available.


We have other customers running in this configuration, with the
same (or nearly) equipment; the main difference is these are brand new
sparkly DECserver 90M+ units with DNAS V3.2, and the other sites all
use DECserver 90M units with DNAS 2.2 or 2.3a. Of course the others
are not on Bellsouth ADSL with PPPoE underpinnings either, though
several sites are running similar applications over 'normal' ADSL with
faster uplink speeds without issue.

Rich

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