Re: possible to avoid a shadow merge?

In article <e1gplh$j23$1@xxxxxxxxx>, helbig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
(Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) writes:

In article <e1eg4s$1k7$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Carl Karcher
<karcher.nomorespam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote:

I'm not getting a merge of the system disk, but rather of the disk where
SYSUAF etc are.

You'll need to do some things in syshutdwn.com to close the files so the
volume dismounts cleanly. Once that happens you won't get a merge. I'd
have syshutdwn.com spawn a command prompt so you can see what files are
open (by what process) at that time. Rightlist is usually one of them.
You will need to at least:

SET SERVER SECURITY_SERVER/EXIT

As of VMS 7.2-1, shutdown.com will stop other processes that had
rightslist open (audit server, decw$*, smiserver) for you. Your
situation may vary.

Here's the problem:

Files accessed on device DSA510: on 11-APR-2006 20:45:28.09

Process name PID File name
00000000 [000000]INDEXF.SYS;1
OPCOM 21C00211 [SYSTEM.MANAGER]OPERATOR_NADILA.LOG;10
AUDIT_SERVER 21C00212 [SYSTEM.MANAGER]VMS$AUDIT_SERVER.DAT;1
JOB_CONTROL 21C00213 [SYSTEM.EXE]QMAN$MASTER.DAT;1
AUDIT_SERVER 21C00212 [SYSTEM.EXE]VMS$OBJECTS.DAT;1
SECURITY_SERVER 21C00218 [SYSTEM.EXE]RIGHTSLIST.DAT;1

I think the operator log is closed automatically by the standard
shutdown procedure. SET SERVER SECURITY_SERVER/EXIT will take care of
[SYSTEM.EXE]RIGHTSLIST.DAT. SET AUDIT/SERVER=EXIT will take care of
VMS$AUDIT_SERVER.DAT and VMS$OBJECTS.DAT. Since the standard shutdown
procedures stops the queues, that means QMAN$MASTER.DAT should be OK as
well. I'll give it a try. (SMISERVER can have RIGHTSLIST.DAT open, but
that should be covered by what you said above; if not, I can just kill
it (which won't work for SECURITY and AUDIT servers.)

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