Re: SGI files for chapter 11



Malcolm Dunnett wrote:
However that same thinking suggested that the 80x86 architecture could
never keep up either and was doomed. I'm not a chip designer, but Intel
certainly seems to have found ways to get those speed enhancements without
sacrificing binary compatibility.

That is because the 8086's instruction set was much simpler than VAX's.
Intel didn't steal Vax tricks for its 8086, they stole Alpha tricks to
embed into the 8086.


would ever do it, but I wonder if it wouldn't be possible to build a
VAX chip today ( using all the latest and greatest tricks and processes )
that would be competetive with the x86 chips of today.

Yes, it would probably be possible. Put a risc engine are the very core
with vax instruction decoders layers above it. Would it be cost
effective ? Would it allow engineers to boost the speed of VAX chips as
fast as Intel/AMD boost their 8086s and keep up with the industry ? That
is the question.

But you'd also need to bring the VAX compilers up to speed with modern
times as well.
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