Re: Clients using a GUI to access FTP

In article <HETCg.69077$gU4.62731@trnddc07>,
John Santos <john@xxxxxxx> writes:

It *is* asking for a human-readable list of files. That's what LIST
does: produce a human-readable list of files. (MS IE may not *want*
an HRLoF, but that's all that is available, so that's what it asks for
and that's what it gets.)

True, he mis-stated it. :-) All the directory listing provided by FTP
Servers are human readable. And we damn humans are just too damned adaptable.
We can interpret a Unix style list or a VMS style list. Computers are a
bit dumber. They pretty much have to be told what the formats are going
to look like beforehand. There are actually two ways to make this work.
You can make VMS deliver the directory in a format that FTP Clients can
interpret or you can change all the clients to understand the VMS format
as well as the Unix format. Considering VMS's relevance in the industry
today, which do you think is the better (and more likely) choice?



More so than the Unix ls listing... What's with listing the filename
last?

Why not? Humans have this strange ability to recognize it wherever it
falls in the line. And the listing is intended to be human readable
(although there have been many succesful programs that interpret it.)

The weird stuff with spacing when the size gets big? (Probably
a day-one bug that has been faithfully preserved for over 30 years.)

Of course it is. Hind-sight is always 20-20. How many people do you
think there were in the early 70's who thought that disks (and thus
files) would ever be as big as they are today? And once done, it can
be very hard to change without breaking an awful lot of existing art.


The weird way dates are displayed?

What's wierd about the dates?

bill

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