RE: No more Oracle Standard Edition for VMS



-----Original Message-----
From: DA Morgan [mailto:damorgan@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: August 23, 2006 3:01 PM
To: Info-VAX@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: No more Oracle Standard Edition for VMS

davidc@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Dave Froble wrote:
Your problem is that you consider yourself locked into
using Oracle.
They know that you can run on Linux, probably cheaper than
running on
VMS, and that this will continue to appeal to you and
they'll keep you
as a customer. They don't give a damn about your desire
to continue to
run VMS. You need a non-Oracle option to possibly get
their attention.

Exactly -- especially if your database needs can be met (if only
barely!) by MySQL. Even MS SQL Server on a Windows box
(which likely
would be much cheaper than Oracle) and using unixODBC/freetds on
OpenVMS to access it.

Just don't have any requirement to comply with Sarbanes-Oxley, PIPEDA,
FACTA, HIPAA, BASEL II, or require scalability, performance, or
failover. Works like a charm if you just go back to the 1990s.
--
Daniel A. Morgan
University of Washington
damorgan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
(replace x with u to respond)
Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
www.psoug.org



Mmmm.. MySQL now has clustering (albeit only active-passive) and a
number of other high end features. While certainly not at the level of
Oracle, it would appear you are basing your statement on where MySQL was
a number of years ago.

http://www.mysql.com/products/database/cluster/
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1749010,00.asp

Btw, SOX, BASEL II and other compliance requirements do not get down to
product level criteria. They are more about accountability and
processes.

Heck, imho, if I was worried about Govt compliance and security
concerns, I would question moving to a platform like Linux which has
approximately 5-20 *security* patches per month. The monthly QA/Testing
time and $'s associated with the mission critical app's would be
*exponentially* higher than any base or annual OS support costs - not to
mention the impact to the QA/testing group not being able to QA/test new
application functionality which is their primary role.

Reference the RH Linux site:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/enterprise-watch-list/ (click on each
month and go all the way back to 2004, 2005 and see what that number is.
Yes, not all apply to all systems, but some are also "bundled" patches)

Regards

Kerry Main
Senior Consultant
HP Services Canada
Voice: 613-592-4660
Fax: 613-591-4477
kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom
(remove the DOT's and AT)

OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works.

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