Re: Thoughts on the book: DEC is dead, long live DEC
- From: "Doug Phillips" <dphill46@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 31 Aug 2006 15:04:11 -0700
Main, Kerry wrote:
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From: Doug Phillips [mailto:dphill46@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
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Subject: Re: Thoughts on the book: DEC is dead, long live DEC
Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote:
In article <1157044676.448111.137240@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,not too late.
"Doug Phillips" <dphill46@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
IA64 licensing is finally in line with reality; hope it's
Is there a short summary of commercial prices available?
I haven't found a short summary for IA64 software at HP, but the
configurator works:
<http://h30099.www3.hp.com/configurator/catalog-hpintegrity.asp>
And the newer OpenVMS SPD tells about Integrity licensing. That's on a
PDF screen that doesn't want to come up for me today.
<http://h18000.www1.hp.com/info/XAV12X/XAV12XPF.PDF>
IIRC, OVMS for I64 switches to Per-Processor and Operating Environment
licensing. The Foundation Operating Environment license (FOE -- not
your friend?;-) includes license for unlimited users (user
licenses not
required) and many other products that previously cost additional.
Clustering can be added additionally (can't find the cost), but it is
included with the Mission Critical Operating Environment (MCOE)
license.
Wouldn't it be nice to be able to just order the VMS system
you want as
easily as you can order a Windows or *nix system?
-Doug
Which one of the 10+ different types of Windows Server options are you
talking about for comparison?
http://www.microsoft.com/servers/overview.mspx
:-) :-)
The one I need (if I were to need one;-) which I can order on-line from
various sources and easily find prices for any configuration and option
--- in most cases.
Real life story:
A customer just this year replaced his AS1000 NT4 server (the last one
in my support area) because: 1. Repair parts were getting hard to find.
2. No new software was available. 3. He needed to do some new things.
4. Adding these applications to his OpenVMS Alpha system would be
extremely expensive because of the lack of packaged/supported software.
Win2003 server was the best option because all of the software he was
then using was available for a reasonable upgrade charge, and all of
the new software he needed was available for a reasonable purchase
price.
Being a loyal DEC-Compaq-HP customer from way-back, he went to HP's web
site and tried to option out a Win2k3 server. After an hour or so
struggling (and calling me at least twice) and never getting the
screens to process correctly, he went over to the Dell site and
configured two servers in about 10 minutes. The site gave him a nice
comparison and after talking to me for a few minutes (and sending me
the links) he ordered one. It arrived within a week and I installed it
the next. Other than a few issues getting it to play nicely with his
Alpha running OpenVMS Advanced Server, it came right up.
Been running fine, doing its job, and haven't rebooted it for months.
.
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