Re: OT: 216 Billion Americans Squirrels Are Scientifically Illiterate (Part 36)

In article <4624981e$0$7605$157c6196@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Dr. Dweeb" <spam@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
Andrew wrote:
On 13 Apr, 21:07, "Dr. Dweeb" <s...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Andrew wrote:
On 12 Apr, 23:40, "Dr. Dweeb" <s...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Richard B. gilbert wrote:
Bob Koehler wrote:
In article <461c1f3a$0$7608$157c6...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Dr.
Dweeb" <s...@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
C02 is not a pollutant, particulate mass is, and the stuff that
comes out of diesel engines is nasty stuff.

As the Supreme Court just informed the White House and the
rest of us have known all along, CO2 is a polutant.

When you equip yourself with a pollution control system to
depollute your own exhalations, we might take you seriously!

Someone has calculated the volume of CO2 exhaled by biological
organisms, but I cannot bebothered to find it just now. It is of
course substantial.

Of course thats screamingly obvious its all part of the carbon cycle
and its why we exist at all.

Obviously, the screaming alarmists that pervade this board do not
rate highly with me.

Clearly, its just a shame that you have failed to produce any
credible evidence to counter the "screaming alarmists" and since
this is the case one has to conclude that the "screaming alarmists"
arn't alarmist at all.

I think CO2, technically, is from an atmospheric perspective a
trace gas.

I am not quite sure what you intended by this comment but yes you
are correct CO2 only accounts for a very small % of our atmosphere.
Just in case your comment was intended to imply that because CO2 is
a trace gas that its effects cannot be anything like as severe as
people suggest let me remind you that even the anti-humans
activities causing global warming camp have had to conclude that
increased levels of CO2 will cause warming.

just so you have some number to play with rather than a rather vague
"trace" pre large scale industrialization the concentrations of CO2
in the atmosphere were around 280 ppm, this has now risen to about
380 ppm. The IPPC report concludes that CO2 is likely to hit the
650 - 800 ppm levels by 2100. Causing a 2-5 degree rise in average
global temperatures.

Sadly I will not be here to see this event. It's getting awarmer -
adapt. As has been pointed out - the predictive capability of the
models to which you refer is approximately zero, so relying on this
prediction for anything other than entertainment is rather pointless.


I guess you don't have any offspring to worry about or if you do lets
hope that you die rich so that they can afford to adapt.


I do have offspring.

Because the reality of climate change is that the rich will be able to
adapt to moderate climate change (unless your assets are mainly in
coastal property). The poor however and that includes the poor in the
US will not. A great example of this is New Orleans. What was striking
was that the faces of the people stranded there were mainly black and
that they were mainly from poor neighborhoods. They all heard the
calls to leave the City but lacking access to transportation and
lacking a place to go outside the City they chose to stay put. The
middle class all had access to good transportation and had no concerns
about finding somewhere to stay when they left the city and so they
got out while the going was good.


This was not a AGW related event. But I see your point

This is pretty much what will happen with moderate climate change from
The Sudan to the Louisiana Delta.

This is why the leaders of all the major Christian churches in the US
and worldwide have stated that it is your moral duty to try to avert
climate change.


We might as well attempt to "square the circle", as the chance of a result
is about the same.

Squaring the circle is quite possible - it just takes money ;)

(

In particular it takes a coin in addition to your straight edge and compasses
- so you can construct a line of length pi*r where r is the radius of the coin
by rolling the coin.

)


David Webb
Security team leader
CCSS
Middlesex University



Dweeb
regards
Andrew Harrison


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