Re: Shouldn't we be helping HP ?



genius@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
On May 11, 12:59 pm, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spam...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Is it really worth fighting against HP for the survival of VMS ?

What would happen if the VMS community were to start to help HP in
very visible and public ways and convince the press and people that
HP is truly winding down VMS and expecting people to switch to HP-UX
?

The community has been fighting actively for the last 15 years, and
while the various owners may not have had the guts to officially
retire VMS, the community has not been succesful at changing the
owner's minds on the concept of promoting and growing VMS.

The Cerner bit about moving from VMS to HP-UX really shows that the
Stallards of HP are having they ways and that the original May 7th
2002 memo has always been HP's strategy towards VMS and that HP has
worked behind the scenes to slowly implement it.

is it really worth fighting ?

When you consider that many VMS engineers are leaving one by one,
(like rats leaving a sinking ship), and you consider the Cerner
issue, perhaps VMS is now truly terminal ?

VMS has been attacked by the Palmer cancer, by Compaq and now folks
like Stallard et all at HP. The community may have been able to slow
the cancer's growth, but eventually it does grow to a point where
you can't control its downfall anymore, at which point, you give the
patient morphine for a peaceful death.

When it gets to that point, you do not wish to prolong life.

Is there really a point in fighting for VMS ?

they should not be lying to customers! And if HP does not want
VMS then you should tell them to sell it to someone who has
the goal of making it the number one os where it should be ...

you tell them like we have that we have a lot invested in vms and
we are not leaving, and if forced to we will go to IBM and NEVER
buy another HP product (incl. ink cartridges) again!

Well, donøt buy an Epson either. I just printed several hundred black text
pages, it now tells me my 5 colour cartridges are empty and will print
nothing.

ALL printer manufacturers are thieves and rogues - sadly there are no good
choices.

Dr. Dweeb

ps: yes I acquired a chip resetter to solve my problem, but the fact stands
that Epson disable the printer and require you to buy new cartridges to
replace ones that have never printed a drop of ink, unless one resorts to
the unauthorised use of electronic chip resetters, which I could only find
in Asia. This is true of every RX and similar printer from Epson.

HP are no better


.



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