Re: Thieving printer manufacturers was: Re: Shouldn't we be helping HP ?

On May 18, 11:45 am, "johnhreinha...@xxxxxxxxx"
<johnhreinha...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On May 18, 12:16 pm, Doug Phillips <dphil...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



On May 17, 4:53 pm, Keith Parris <keithparris_nos...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Doug Phillips wrote:
I recently bought a Canon MP830 and I'm very impressed with it after
using HP for years. It has individual photo/color cartridges (Black,
Yellow, Magenta, Cyan)

HP also sells some printer models with individual cartridges for each
color of ink.

Didn't say they didn't, but so what if they do? I was talking about
the Canon MP830. I liked the fact that the Canon has a 2nd larger
black cartridge. The HP's I saw use a single black cartridge for both
photo and text. I didn't make comparisons between the two other than
that Canon lacked a NIC, but please do tell us about your comparably
priced HP Multi-Function.

I recently bought a printer for my wife and I looked hard at the Canon
MP830 and the MP960 but ended up with an HP C6180. I really didn't
want to go with the HP because we had a multitude of driver problems
on her Win2K system with an HP 2110 AIO. I also had reservations
about the Canon products since we had a bad experience with a MP130
(Constant paper jams and ***-eyed printing). I did a lot of looking
in the help forums various places and nobody was reporting any
problems with the drivers for these (We print from Mac OS X and
Windows). The MP960, while nice, was a bit pricey at the time ($499
most places) and the MP830 just didn't feel as easy to use. So we got
the C6180 at MicroCenter for $259 (plus tax). So far no complaints.
We have printed about 300 pages on it without problems and haven't had
the driver issues like before. We've done a little scanning and
copying also.

My wife prints to it from her Win2k PC and the kids print from their
Mac Mini. I have the HP LJ4050 and not much need for color so I
haven't tried printing with my Mac Pro or even from VMS (via LPR and a
Mac, I suppose).

The HP c6180 is a 6-color photo printer with fax/scanner/copier
functions. Each color has its own cartridge and the black is around
twice as big as the other colors. Retail for each color cartridge is
$9.95 and the black is $14.95. You can get discounts at Sam's Club
and other places.

John H. Reinhardt

Good review. I remember looking at that printer and that *was* the HP
that most tempted me. I guess a feeling that I was stuck in a loyalty
rut in spite of not-so-great experiences with HP biased my choice in
the end.

For the all-in-one, I really considered going Laser (since most of my
work doesn't need color) and getting a less expensive stand-alone for
color and photo (which I don't do in great volume). There are quite a
few Lasers all-n-1's that will scan color even though they only print
b/w. (Color lasers cost more than I wanted to spend.) Decided on the
ink jet because of its lower power usage (25w scan/copy, 4w standby)
and cost/page.

Anyway, I'm happy with the MP830, it is *very* easy to use and it
installed so easily and quickly that I thought I'd done something
wrong (didn't).

There are so darn many choices today that buying anything can be real
pain. After studying on-line and in-stores every all-n-1 in my price-
range, narrowing it down to 3 or 4, I finally just went to OfficeMax
('cause I had a $-off coupon), walked straight to the MP830 and bought
it. In and out in 5 minutes. Home, unpacked the box, glanced at the
installation guide, installed in minutes, went out to the deck, smoked
a cigar and read the manual. End of that particular stress, on to the
next;-)

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