Re: New Zealnders now laughing at global warming

In article <464e54ac$0$21929$157c6196@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"Dr. Dweeb" <spam@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
ultradwc@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/timaruherald/4064691a6571.html

Naturally. This is the position of all those capable of reading the science
and who do not have a vested interest in the promulgation of the
politically correct (but scientifically, totally unsupportable) line.

AGW is irrelevant, on a global scale.

There are so many environmental issues which *are* relevant and which can be
addressed, that it is truly sadenning to see the obsession with the
pointless and urrelevant (CO2 volume) issue. It is based on non-science and
detracts from the real issues at hand. :(

But hey, what do I know, my mentors in this field are merely scientiests
with extremely high credibility who have chosen to keep their own counsel.
They laugh at Al Gore and his polemic, as I do, and for the same reasons.

You talk like this is something new. This is (and has been) the norm for
pseudo-science environmentalism. Looks like time to bring out one of my
favorite examples again.

Seems back in the 60's a papermill opened up in Wyoming County, PA.
Sportsmen noticed decline in the Susquehanna River below the papermill
and immediately started screaming "Pollution!!!" Of course, the
owners of the papermill responded with the fact that the discharge
water from the plant was actually cleanewr than the water they took in
out of the river. As a matter of fact, the executive tour of the plant
included the touring manager taking a glass of water directly from the
discharge and drinking it as proof that there was nothing hazardous in
the water. But, "No", the people said. "Pollution!!!" So they hired
some "scientist" from Penn State to prove it. For weeks the local papers
displayed pictures of her in her hip-boots wading int he river around the
plant taking her samples. This went on for months and months and, you
know what, she never found any trace of pollution. The water coming out
of the plant was, in fact, cleaner than the water they took in from the
river. Eventually, the whole thing just went away as people got bored
with the lack of results.

Ready for the punch line?

The plant was, in fact, "polluting" the river. The water coming out
of the plant was considerably warmer thant he natural temperature of
the river. This raised the temperature below the plant. This had
the effect of causing the fish to swim upstream to spawn later which
resulted in the eggs being layed too late in the year for them to
hatch and the little fish survive. Interestingly enough, nature dealt
with it. The fish learned and changed their habits so that they went
back to spawning at the right time and the river is now (and has been
for decades) alive with fish and a sportsman's pardise. Lessons learned
(well, obviously nothing has been learned, but this is what those willing
to learn learned)? Nature will adapt. Man often misses the reality
by focusing on the wrong thing. The scientific method has been abandoned
in favor of politics which bring in much more grant money.

Oh yeah, this is not a zero sum game. The net result of having this plant
is that the river is actually cleaner than it would be without it. Well,
at least until it gets to Lackawanna County where the Sanitary Authority
dumps raw sewage into it!

bill

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