Re: Question for the Group

David J Dachtera wrote:
Folks,

I'll likely be severely chastised for this, but here goes...

I've been carrying on an exchange by private e-mail where it was suggested that
the negativity expressed in this forum is greatly damaging to VMS.

So, I'd like to solicit your comments on that, and also pose a question where
you can, effectively, wish for "the world": in your opinion, what would have to
happen to stem what is viewed as an endless stream of complaints and vitriol
here in comp.os.vms?

Please express yourself freely (but take a lesson from the Illinois high school
senior who almost wound up doing time for carrying that to an extreme). I'd
recommend containing yourself only as far as to suppress obscenities and
profanity - (blank) and (Censored) work, at least for me these days - as well as
suppressing any talk of violence which could lead to untold troubles. We don't
need that distraction.

Anyone who wishes to respond anonymously may send your reply directly to me -
how to demung the reply-to should be obvious. I will then "sanitize" and post
such messages, but be advised that I might clean up language, grammar,
punctuation, capitalization, etc. to mask characteristics that might divulge the
identity of an anonymous respondent.

Have at it - or have at me, whatever works for you.


The "negativity" that I see appears to be a realistic assessment. H-P does not and will not market VMS. Given that, there is little hope of keeping the O/S alive.

I think I mentioned recently that, in the fall of 1998, I was offered a $5000 raise and a $5000 signing bonus to take a VMS job. When the company was acquired in the summer of 2004, my services were no longer required. By anyone! The demand for VMS people has vanished. The O/S has effectively vanished. It still runs in a lot of places where Ctrl-Alt-Del is not an option but most of those places are out of the public eye.

The Robert Morris worm brought the Unix world to its knees a few years ago. VMS was not affected. Did anybody notice that? Did anybody step up and say "that couldn't happen to VMS"? We knew that but, if the marketing folks did, they didn't care to say so!

If your correspondent thinks the negativity here is damaging VMS, what does he think of HP's marketing?

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