Re: Is VMS losing the Financial Sector, also?

Bill Gunshannon wrote:
In article <FA60F2C4B72A584DBFC6091F6A2B86840250A3EF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@xxxxxx> writes:
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From: bill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Bill Gunshannon
Sent: July 5, 2007 12:43 PM
To: Info-VAX@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Is VMS losing the Financial Sector, also?
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In article <90d24$468d09bd$cef8887a$5386@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
Mr Main, with ragards to your patches issue.

In the late 1990s, the weenies would convince management to
deploy
Windows because it was a lot cheaper, there were a lot more
available
staff and it had an assured future. When asked if there was a
virus
problem, the answer would inevitably be "we'll set it up properly
and it
won't affect us".

By the time they got hit with I LOVE YOU or some other
debilitating
event, their deployment of windows was so entrenched that it was
impossible to change to a real OS so thet learned to live with it
and
try to minimise the damage.

Your story of Vista switching back to VMS because of a windows
virus is
very good, but unfortunatly rare.
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And probably not the whole (or even the real) story as what people
use
Vista for can not be done on VMS. Vista is a desktop operating
system,
not a server operating system.
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bill
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Bill...

mmm.. you missed the point.

The earlier URL points to a company called VISTA that packages or uses a
mission critical software package called SCADA on a number of platforms.
One of their Customers was running Windows Server and was down for 2
days because of a nasty virus. Subsequently, they have since switched to
OpenVMS on Integrity and by the report, the migration went very well.

Absolutely zero to do with client stuff.

OK, sorry. When one uses the terms "Vista" and Windows in the same
paragraph today certain assumptions are bound to be made. So then,
this just goes back to the original argument about someone was doing
with a servert hat allowed it to come in contact with a virus!! If
the VMS system is managed as badly as the Windows system obviously
was they are bound to have problems even with VMS. Not necessarily
the same problems, but problems and possibly security problems. No
OS is immune from the effects of incompetent sys admins.

If I read you correctly you seem to be claiming that only incompetently managed Windows systems get infected. If so, you are far from correct. There are many documented cases of systems being hacked and/or infected even though they were up to date on patches and running current antivirus software (as well as other protections). Look up the impact of almost any zero-day exploit to name just one example.

Mark Berryman
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