Re: Here's one for Bob (hope it makes your head spin)



On 08/23/07 17:14, FredK wrote:
"Ron Johnson" <ron.l.johnson@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:LVmzi.282679$LE1.156547@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

A smart guy like you should *know* that Paul died in the mid-60s.
Either 64CE or 67CE.


Smart? Not likely. Yes, to correct what I wrote - Paul (Saul of Tarsus) is
believed to have died in Rome in between 65 and 67CE (in his late 50's) by
beheading - around the same time as Peter (Simon IIRC). The earliest
reference I can find to a reference to a reference to his writings dates to
about 110CE. Most sources place the earliest copies of the documents at
around 200CE - or at least that is what I remembered as I was writing it and
the date stuck in my head for some reason (old age and senility). But there
is little doubt that Paul existed and wrote a lot of "stuff" that may or may
not be the inspired word of God.

We agree on that...

Of course, he still was a nutjob and the architect of much of the Catholic
tradition and beliefs

You're probably thinking of Augustine of Hippo.

- and did not have first hand knowledge of Christ. He
helped stone the first Christian Martyr. He "converted" sometime between
age 25 and 30 after having been a pretty nasty guy - his conversion was due
to his being blinded, and then cured by a follower of Christ.





--
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA USA

Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day.
Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good!
.



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