Re: Here's one for Bob (hope it makes your head spin)
- From: AEF <spamsink2001@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 17:44:08 -0700
On Sep 4, 1:59 pm, VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
In article <fbk4mq$8q...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, davi...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
In article <1188926008.865710.82...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, ultra...@xxxxxxxxx writes:
On Sep 4, 10:07 am, davi...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
In article <kgljrV4qe...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, koeh...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Bob Koehler) writes:
In article <fbi4gb$lb...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, davi...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
"
7 [22] Without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness: in fact, ancient
Israel did envisage other means of obtaining forgiveness; the Old Testament
mentions contrition of heart (Psalm 51:17), fasting (Joel 2:12), and almsgiving
(Sirach 3:29). The author is limiting his horizon to the sacrificial cult,
which did always involve the shedding of blood for its expiatory and unitive
value.
"
I'm not really in favor of getting my religious teaching from a web
site, but suppose for rhetorical purposes we took the above to be
true.
What prevents God from changing it?
I've posted a clarification of the above since the site Boob quoted was using
the argument from Hebrews in the New Testament that
"Without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness"
whereas the above shows that this is not true according to the Old Testament -
there are other routes to forgiveness.
But as you say an all powerful God should be able to do whatever he/she/it
wished.
David Webb
Security team leader
CCSS
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1 Samuel chapter 15 vs 29
" He who is the Glory of Israel does not lie or change his mind; for
he is not a man, that he should change his mind."
So we should be following everything in the old testament ? - the modifications
made in the New Testament can not be valid because God can never change his
mind ?
So for instance Christians should all be eating only Kosher food and all men
should be circumcised.
I happen to prefer every inch of my member, as does Mrs. VAXman, so if you
don't mind, I'll opt out of your barbaric heathen ritual of body mutilation.
Why did you make this incredibly inaccurate, ignorant, insulting
remark? No one is asking anything of you.
Or are you just trying to push my buttons?
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