Re: UNIX equivalent of VMS group logicals?

On Oct 9, 7:59 pm, b...@xxxxxxxxxxx (Bill Gunshannon) wrote:
In article <488d3$470be727$cef8887a$11...@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spam...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

Bill Gunshannon wrote:
Or you could just stop trying to write Unix software using a VMS paradigm
and write it as Unix software using the methods in common use on Unix!!

Does Unix have the concept of "group" to which a username belongs ?

Yes and no.



If so, then asking about structuring an application so that each group
of users has a shared configuration is a very valid question since it
would not be "foreign" to Unix.

Actually, they were once again grousing about Unix not having VMS
style logicals.

Read my lips. We admit it. Unix does not have VMS style logicals or
anything even close. Now, read my lips again. That has never stopped
anyone from doing on Unix anything meaningful that you do on VMS using
logicals. Everybody happy now.



And this wouldn't be so much a Unix vs VMS question, it would be a
experienced system manager/designer versus an inexperienced one. The
inexperienced one will just write apps where every user has its own
config (or worse, one config for the whole system as is/was common for
Windows). The experienced one will know to try to design the application
so that configs can be done at the user, group and/or system wide levels.

Unix has a common way to handle configs that are allowed to change
during the operation of a continuously running process. Unix has
a way to handle controlling access to the config file. It does not
involve anything like VMS logicals. "porting" a program involves
more than just hacking a program from on OS so that it runs (no matter
how badly) on another OS.



I think that Microsoft's whole "registry" thing was an attempt at
allowing such functionality.

I have no idea what MS was thinking when they designed their registry
system and frankly, I have no intention of finding out.

Well, for those who do, I was told that it was because Windows system
managers were tired of maintaining huge numbers of .ini files. I'll
check with the Windows group at work tomorrow.


bill

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