Re: X11 in a browser?

Tom Linden wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 08:02:06 -0800, Mark Daniel <mark.daniel@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Larry Kilgallen wrote:

In article <fhp4vi$bph$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, david20@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:

In article <473F4E4A.5040201@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:


Since the user could almost certainly get PC software that will handle X windows for $400-$600 that's probably the way to go. If he needs fifty or a hundred copies of the PC software, that could get a little expensive and it might actually be worth writing a web interface.


Alternatively if the user is not averse to using public domain software on his
PCs then he could use the free Xming X windows software see

http://sourceforge.net/projects/xmng

and

http://www.straightrunning.com/XmingNotes/

What if the customer needs some third alternative to:
a) pay money
b) get it for free
? :-)


With Xming you can do both/either. Note the donation link

http://www.straightrunning.com/XmingNotes/#sect-16

(In fact it would appear you cannot obtain the latest release without donating!)

Seriously ... I evaluated the Cygwin/X package some time ago and found it unusable for my purposes. I have been using X-Win32

http://www.starnet.com/products/xwin32/

with great satisfaction for some time now but an alternative, which licence doesn't regularly expire, would be serious contender. I just downloaded the Xming package, have installed it, and am composing the VMS Mozilla newsreader reply using it as the X-Window Server.

First impressions: fast, lightweight, stable (at least it hasn't crashed yet with five DECterms and one Mozilla running; I also ran up DECwindows Mail, clock, etc., just to check) and seems to be handling the keyboard mapping from PC to VT-style for TPU., etc., adequately (with a little xmodmap-ing in my LOGIN.COM).


Mark, have you had occasion to compare it to eXcursion, for which I have
had a number of DECterms, emacs and dbg running without problem through
SSH connection?

I haven't Tom. I'm wasn't necessarily looking to replace X-Win32. It's becoming more capable and stable with each release - quite acceptable these days. It's always useful to have another way to accomplish the same objective though. Particularly when it's basically costless :-)

My only gripe so far (and this is one that also criticises VMS' 'detached' application creation infrastructure) is the lack of what I would call a real application launcher (X-Win32's is superb). It's a bit of a pain SSHing to the VMS box to launch (detached) DECterms and having to maintain them for applications such as Mozilla. Still, with a little judicous command-prompt batch programming that might be made less irksome.

If there's any interest I'll report back after using it for a period.

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