Re: M$IE; was: DSPP Integrity remanufactured h/w...

VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
In article <B33TWKcUh3lh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Kilgallen@xxxxxxxxxxx (Larry Kilgallen) writes:

In article <Zmvnj.5$QM6.1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG writes:
In article <UOzbvylpL9re@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Kilgallen@xxxxxxxxxxx (Larry Kilgallen) writes:

In article <TWanj.3$2W.0@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG writes:

Sending them as PDF would make them more *universally* "compatable". (sic)
Providing you do not generate the form of PDF that is unreadable
by Adobe Acrobat 4.
I read PDF with Preview.
That is irrelevant in the long term.
A statement relevant in the long term would be "I always upgrade my
operating system to adapt to format changes."

:D

I need to upgrade my OS (VMS) to support the gobbledegook reformatted
quoted-printable *** that Micro$oft mailers create whenever they send
out preformatted text!

You might get a chuckle out of this (or a groan if you're stuck with it).

Microsoft sells an email system they claim is fit for the enterprise called Exchange. The standard client for Exchange is Microsoft Outlook which, naturally, only runs on Windows. Microsoft also sells an Exchange client for Mac called Entourage. Remember, these are all Microsoft products.

Here's the fun part: if folks exchange email messages where there is a mix of Entourage and Outlook clients, something somewhere in the message path, Outlook, Entourage, or Exchange, starts changing the font size on each message in the message stream. If you have a message containing multiple replies, each reply in the message is rendered in an ever decreasing font size, rapidly making the replies unreadable.

If there is a fix for this, I have yet to find it.

I just received an email from a site which should have been text -- text that was generated by some SDA commands I asked the customer to enter.
I now have a display full of "= 20" and similar ***. What is it with
M$ and text? It does NOT need to be encoded.

Which is one of the reasons I now read all mail sent to my VMS account using Mac mail. Of course, I have the benefit of being able to forward all of my mail to a hobbyist machine where I can afford to run PMDF, which has the only decent IMAP server for VMS I've found (and I believe I have tried them all).

I with VMS would ship with ZIP. I'd write a procedure to BACKUP and ZIP
said files so that I can then get a proper attachment and unravel it to
see properly formatted text. Of course, the ZIP file would probably get
FTPed from the VMS box to the PeeCee as a text file and I'd still be out
in the cold.

Seems to be an oversight. VMS now ships with Perl, Apache, Java, Kerberos, Mozilla, SSL, NetBeans, CDSA, and possibly others. You'd think Zip would have been included, especially since the distribution DVD includes zipped files. (As you can tell from the reference to a DVD, this is only true for VMS on IA64. Perhaps if Alpha VMS ever changed to DVD distribution, all of this software would be included in the distribution for that platform as well).

Mark Berryman

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