Re: Open sourcing of VMS: bad precedent set
- From: D Gillbilly <gillbilly@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 03:56:58 GMT
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 15:57:05 -0800 (PST), Sue <susan_skonetski@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
<snip>
Dear Folks,
You know how much I care for you and for VMS. We just had and
Ambassadors meeting where Martin Fink called in. And while I value
the fact that at most every posting on COV the future of VMS is
discussed. We do have a roadmap which includes hardware and software
futures. in the last 6 months we have had more press than ever
before. Based on your request we had Martin Fink on Customer call,
more technical web casts than ever before. We are moving forward and
at the point we are just another one of the OS's in HP. We want to be
judged on our merit.
Reality.
We are a business, we are not free, our engineers are (in my opinion)
the best in the industry hence deserve a pay check.
What do you want?
Do not flame me. Do not give me un realistic statments like
advertising, its not going to happen. Give me something, me Sue can
do. And I will do my best to do it. Tell me where the problem is and
I will try and find someone to fix it. I know your job depends on VMS
so does mine.
Sorry for taking so long to post up.
At first I didn't realize that this was a victory.
We want to be judged on our merit.
Reading between the words (in this and other recent posts), I get the
feeling that the OpenVMS BU has gained some additional control over it's
own destiny.
Control.
Isn't that one of biggest problems in industry?
Lack of control?
Congratulations on a job well done (even if I am wrong).
Is it still too early to try to encourage schools, developers, or companies
to take another look at OpenVMS?
OpenVMS may currently be lacking in modern features, but it also is lacking
in a lot of the modern problems.
The lack of developers is the ONLY THING that can kill OpenVMS.
(Even the Vendors couldn't kill it (if they were even trying))
Duane
(too small to be big, too big to be small)
Disclaimer:
Due to circumstances beyond my control, I now work for a company that has
the absolute minimum number of people required to sell and support OpenVMS
applications. As I have alluded in a number of posts, *I* am the biggest
threat to my customers. I'm just describing my job to point out that there
is a big empty gap between my situation and the enterprise. .
But I am a optimistic realist.
I can always achieve nothing by doing nothing.
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**** What does the WooWoo DooDoo. ****
I was hired by two researchers that were intent on providing computing
power to a disadvantaged industry segment. At the time, they had a rack of
Gandalf technology connecting remote Canadian sites to a hopped up and over
worked PDP 11/70 (RSTS/E). I was new and had explicit instructions not to
use any unnecessary CPU to do my job (we were selling cycles and storage at
the time). I had to spend my days writing code, compiling overnight and
hoping that in the morning I had something to test.
Timesharing taught me how to manage multiple applications for multiple
customers on the same machine. Toolkits full of modules were developed just
to squeeze the most we could into memory.
On the VAX, overlays were easily turned into libraries that turned into
shareable images. They also grew comfortable with providing remotely
managed applications in non-technical (and sometimes hostile) environments.
An integrated security/authentication domain eased management tasks.
Additional authentication provided exceptional auditor compliance. The
customer bought or leased the equipment and for a monthly fee, my company
handled the details.
These are also the hardware years.
I enjoyed working on the network gear.
The Alpha brought a big slowdown to the growth. The bigger customers (that
were more easily influenced by internal IT sources) got cold feet and
bailed (or at least are still trying). For the rest, I immersed myself into
R&D projects (being a writeoff is actually job security) while working with
our customers to maintain flexible environments capable of meeting all the
current business demands and regulations. A non reliance on *industry
standard* services meant we never lost control of the office. (Thanks
PATHWORKS (Advanced Server (SAMBA (gulp))))
Control can provide stability AND allows the users to enjoy (?) the *user
experience* that they unfortunately have been brainwashed to expect.
I'm still on the fence over the I-Box (but liking it more and more). I
think the Management Processor offers the most hope of helping me black box
my OpenVMS appliances. But I'm too busy working to have much I-Box fun
right now.
And the future???
I don't yet know where I fit into the present.
Seems to me that I have been going the wrong way all these years.
And whenever I look at the industry, all I ever see is the push towards the
*next big thing* (or is that away from the *last big mistake*).
I can't tell if I am way behind or if I am way ahead.
Anyway, just don't try to do this yourself.
If you are thinking of trying to deploy an OpenVMS solution, get some
quality professional consultation (Now available!). The lessons that they
have learned and the mistakes that they can help to avoid will go a long
way to ensuring that you can develop applications that are designed to last
longer than the latest fad.
<snip or to last longer than an ink cartridge>
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?Humor?
A Salute To The Niche!
Too bad small business was such a niche market. :-(
But what if it was a big niche? :-)
What if to an auditor, small companies all looked the same? :-)
What if there was an operating system that was currently only niche. :-(
But what if it was niche in a lot of industries! :-)
Would that make it General Purpose? :-)
Is that a good rank to have? :-)
Where can I sign up? :-)
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Laughing
Here am I
Laughing inside
Cuz I don't know much
About these times...
Neil Osborne 54-40
I wonder what he would think if he found out that a small business nobody
was using his song for inspiration to try and convince big business that
big business already has the technology to help small business escape
*industry (sub)standard* big business?
Hopefully he would laugh.
I think I need to lighten up anyway.
Time for a change in tactics.
What!
A strategy?
Yup, I'm gonna make someone laugh before I give up!
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To the choir:
Thank you for your tolerance as I tried to reach the congregation.
Is everyone prepared for Critical Mass?
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