Re: Proof that macintosh is better than VMS
- From: AEF <spamsink2001@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:13:00 -0700 (PDT)
On Mar 12, 5:16 pm, Doug Phillips <dphil...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mar 11, 8:03 pm, AEF <spamsink2...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mar 11, 1:14 pm, Doug Phillips <dphil...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mar 11, 2:16 pm, koeh...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Bob
Koehler) wrote:
In article <960d254f-6ae7-4334-ab8e-e58e2b1ed...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Doug Phillips <dphil...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
You are confusing quantum mechanics math with reality. If you mean
that the mathematics of quantum mechanics is not concerned with
resolving apparent randomness, then you are correct. You might want to
look into the de Broglie-Bohm theory, more recently called Bohmian
Mechanics.
Quantum mechanics math vs. reality? You think reality differs?
I believe that reality does consist of probabilities, but QM math is
vague by design and accepts those probabilities as "good enough"
because in most cases they are.
QM math is not vague. The wave functions are well determined and so
are the probabilities for the various outcomes therefrom.
I'll reply here, once, against my better instincts, and hope to
address most of the questions/points you directed at me in this thread
(and the rest of your post which content I've left intact at the
bottom.)
I don't claim any special understanding or adherence to any of the
ideas presented by the following references. Most have been debated
elsewhere and google should find some of the discussions. You might
already be completely familiar with all of them, anyway, but it seems
you're not from what you've said -- or if you are maybe you have
previously dismissed them as garbage.
Papers regarding GHZ
http://eprintweb.org/S/article/quant-ph/0007102
Hmm, they want $31.50 for this one. I'll pass.
http://eprintweb.org/S/authors/All/un/Unnikrishnan/21
I think I read a paper by this dude once. I discussed it with my
graduate advisor and he agreed it's bogus. But this may .. OK, I just
checked it. This one is free. Yeah, I think it's the same author and
it's probably bogus. The other paper I read by him (probably around
2000) deduced that the wave function IS deterministic, but everyone
knows that. My adviser said all he did was re-derive the Bell stuff in
an strange way.
If this were really showing what it claims, I think he would have won
a Nobel prize by now. It's probably bogus.
AEF
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