Encompass - Endeavour

Today's the last day to vote on the great HP user group snogfest. To
be honest I don't have strong feelings either way though I tend
slightly against for the reason below; what I really wanted a vote on
back in the day was dumping the DECUS name in favor of Encompass, but
the members were not given that option at the time.

The one main thing that Encompass still works with that I really like
is the Boot Camp (I just wish I could go). Some of the webinars have
been useful too, as is access to the DECUS library, when it works, and
Notes archives. I am NOT an HP aficionado, or an HP customer, or an
HP vendor... I don't use or sell any HP products other than VMS
systems, and HP printers to go with those systems. On the PC side of
things we go with whatever wintel POC vendor the customer requires,
sometimes HP, often not.

I am an OpenVMS aficionado, customer, vendor, reseller, manager,
programmer, etc. And I can't help but think that VMS and its
associated hardware and apps will be more marginalized in the new uber-
organization than it was in Encompass (relative to DECUS, where DEC's
influence at the time was certainly not doing VMS huge favors
either).

If anyone would care to share their thoughts, or their vote, in the
time remaining, it would be interesting to hear your reasoning on
this, assuming anyone actually cares.

Rich


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