Re: Encompass - Endeavour

On Apr 30, 1:35 pm, twn...@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Apr 30, 12:28 pm, Rich Jordan <jor...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Today's the last day to vote on the great HP user group snogfest. To
be honest I don't have strong feelings either way though I tend
slightly against for the reason below; what I really wanted a vote on
back in the day was dumping the DECUS name in favor of Encompass, but
the members were not given that option at the time.

The reasons that the members were not given the option to vote on
keeping the DECUS name is because DECUS was not an independent user
group. It was owned by DEC and whoever owned DEC at the time (I think
it was still Compaq) and so was the DECUS name. DECUS was essentially
told to cease and desist on the use of the name DECUS. I always
thought it was a mistake on the part of the DECUS board to not be more
clear and public that we were forced to give up the DECUS name and had
no choice in the matter.

Encompass IS an independent organization and does own it's own name.





The one main thing that Encompass still works with that I really like
is the Boot Camp (I just wish I could go). Some of the webinars have
been useful too, as is access to the DECUS library, when it works, and
Notes archives. I am NOT an HP aficionado, or an HP customer, or an
HP vendor... I don't use or sell any HP products other than VMS
systems, and HP printers to go with those systems. On the PC side of
things we go with whatever wintel POC vendor the customer requires,
sometimes HP, often not.

I am an OpenVMS aficionado, customer, vendor, reseller, manager,
programmer, etc. And I can't help but think that VMS and its
associated hardware and apps will be more marginalized in the new uber-
organization than it was in Encompass (relative to DECUS, where DEC's
influence at the time was certainly not doing VMS huge favors
either).

If anyone would care to share their thoughts, or their vote, in the
time remaining, it would be interesting to hear your reasoning on
this, assuming anyone actually cares.

Rich

I agree with your reasoning and also your temperature on this issue.
I also voted against, but will not be heart broken if the proposal
passes.

Thomas Wirt
Director of IS
Kittle's Home Furnishings
Indianapolis, IN, USA

Thomas,
thanks for replying. I remember getting documentation to vote
for bylaws, etc, but was seriously annoyed at the apparently one-sided
discontinuation of DECUS.

So it was some twitterbrain at compaq that surreptitiously shoved
the knife in the back. Thats better than the group just doing it to
be corporate politically correct.

Rich
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