Re: PC Systems for sale

In article <MPG.2360022a9a49cf189897ae@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
John Santos <john.santos@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
In article <6lmq0dFd01o7U1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, billg999@xxxxxxxxxxx
says...
In article <00A81252.9ED4222D@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG writes:
In article <22dc096d-6865-406e-bc77-8eaa2762cb6b@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, johnwallace4@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
On Oct 15, 3:33 pm, "David Turner, islandco.com"
<dtur...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Very quick

NEW Island Datastore P2Duo Syhstems

These have become very popular with our customers as we can still sell NEW
XP Pro with these

Intel P2CoreDuo 3Ghz Minitower
ASUS Motherboard
2GB Memory (2 x 1GB DDR2)
512MB Nvidia Graphics
250GB SATAII Disk
CD/DVDRW-DL
On Board Gigabit
Windows XP Pro
Keytronic Heavy Duty Keyboard and Mouse (Old IBM Style)
No Monitor

Total Per System $820

Shipping within the US: $26

3 Year Warranty

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David B Turner

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PO Box 86
Tybee GA 31328

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For those who don't mind slumming it, both HP and Dell websites are
quite happy to sell desktops with Windows XP support. Eg Dell Optiplex
can still be bought with XP pre-installed for a small additional fee,
and HP/Compaq dx-series desktops sold with Vista Business comes with
XP Pro downgrade rights and support (Vista Business brings the
downgrade rights, whether the box is supported with XP is decided by
the box builder).

And for those who don't mind a bit of DIY, Windows XP OEM licence
+media should still be available (at least while stocks last) from the
usual retail PCbuilder outlets.

Vista still isn't mandatory yet, much to their disappointment.

...and this has "WHAT?" to do with VMS??? Why, abso-fucking-lutely nothing!

Take it to comp.system.WEENDOZE.WANKERZ (aka. comp.system.WEENDOZE.advocacy)

Oh bull***. We just went thru this whole discussion with numerous
of the VMS faithful openly admiting that you need another non-VMS
system in order to even bring up something as simple as a hobbyist
box.


Talk about bull***! This statement is utter crap. All you need is a
terminal.

Did you sleep thru the last two or three weeks here? We just went over
this. Remember the thread about cut-and-paste for inputing PAKS? Hard
to do on a terminal. Of copurse you CAN do it all on a terminal, but
nobody in this day and age is likely to be willing to do that. It's
another of them there reality-checks that seem to evade so many people
here.

Though hyperterminal on a PC would do, it is the worst
possible choice.

Yes, it is. :-)

What else would you need a PC for?

Putty on a PC. :-)

(A Mac, Linux,
Unix,

Stil requires another system running another OS, n'est-ce pas?

or another, all-ready running, VMS system would do as well or
better.)

And that's the same original problem only recursive. :-)



Not being int he market for yet another PC I didn't read enough
of the message to know if it was a good deal or not, but knowing Island,
it probably was. Or are you just mad because they didn't offer Macs
as well? It's time to accept that the days of VT100's are over and
you really need something else just to install VMS. It might as well
be a PC running Windows as anything else. And, yes, I have a PC with
a bunch of serial ports on the back providing consoles to my PDP-11's.
It is, however not running Windows or OSX. :-)


It might asxx wellxxxx better be *anything* than a M$ PC.

And you certainly don't need either a terminal nor a terminal emulator
if you have a graphics-capable VMS box plus KVM.

Graphics don't work until after you enter the PAK. We just went
all over that, too.

bill

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