RE: PC Systems for sale
- From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@xxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:19:34 +0000
From: urbancamo [mailto:mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: PC Systems for sale
Not sure what you mean here as a PC or MAC or whatever GUI and/or
browser front ends can be implemented on OpenVMS in the same way as
any other OS.
I was probably venting my frustration that a perfectly good system has
to be replaced because the market conditions have moved on. The
existing system may not have been pretty but it was technically very
impressive. Another part of the drive to replace the application was
due to the use of languages such as COBOL that can no longer be
sourced technically in significant and consistent numbers. It was also
probably a rant about the current state of software development
management. The term 'engineering' often leaves me shaking my head in
disbelieve ('Cynical Old Contractor' syndrome I'm sure!)
Let me add at the end of this post that I'm looking to be educated
primarily and get my facts straight. It would be nice if those who are
experts in OpenVMS could provide insights into how they see OpenVMS
fitting into the modern data centre, development houses and offices
without resorting to HP bashing.
Whilst within a personal context there will always be a time and place
to vent negative opinions about OpenVMS and HP I have been really
surprised how much of it goes on within this news group. Linux has
proved, if nothing else, that the worldwide community of software
developers (and I include commercial organisations within this
context) can change the operating systems pie chart. People like
Alexey Chupahin (who is actively porting various projects to OpenVMS)
are a breath of fresh air in re-igniting my enthusiam in OpenVMS. HP
appear to have noticed him and are supporting his efforts with much
needed hardware. If only there were many more like him...
There is certainly nothing wrong with continuing to use existing 3GL's
and other application technologies. J2EE and .Net will also have a
place, but, like any OO based technologies, there are large learning
curves and setup / migration / integration costs associated with these.
Each company needs to evaluate what mix of current and new technologies
they will implement going forward. And implementing totally new
technologies should not be based on a "because everyone else is doing
it" - that is a recipe for disaster.
Having stated this, if a company wants to continue using OpenVMS
development technologies while at the same time ease into the J2EE world,
they can implement the OpenVMS based version of Distributed Netbeans.
This is a means to integrate older and new technologies.
"Distributed NetBeans for OpenVMS allows you to run the NetBeans IDE on
your desktop system and develop applications on a remote OpenVMS Alpha
or Integrity server system.
Distributed NetBeans contains BASIC, C/C++, COBOL, FORTRAN, and PASCAL
language and debugging support, and MMS, BASH, DCL, and EDT Keypad
In addition, for those that want a UNIX-like environment running on
OpenVMS, there is the GNV kit:
HP Services Canada
(remove the DOT's and AT)
OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works.
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