Re: SFF (Send From File) Utility

"Michael D. Ober" <obermd.@.alum.mit.edu.nospam.> wrote in message news:-8KdnQgvipqFu4HUnZ2dnUVZ_qHinZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
"JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:000dbbab$0$9192$c3e8da3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Michael D. Ober wrote:

To: mdo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,obermd@xxxxxxxxxxxx,obermd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Your test is not very good since all 3 recipients are on different SMTP
servers.

But you are right. If you have defined apollo.wakeassoc as a gateway
SMTP server (and it seems to be working since the message to all 3
recipients was sent to apollo), one would expect the message to go to
apollo once and let apollo distribute the copy 3 times to each different
domain.

You should try:

To: user1@xxxxxxxxxxx, user2@xxxxxxxxxxx, user3@xxxxxx

as well as:

To: user1@xxxxxxxxxxx, user2@xxxxxxxxxxx, user3@xxxxxxxxxxx

And see if it sends the message twice or 3 times in the first case, and
in second case, if it does send only one copy of message out.

if you send a message to an invalid domain name, do you get a
non-delivery notification from jaguar or from apollo ?



From the Exchange Message/Envelope Journal, I can see that when there are multiple recipients in a domain, they all receive the message via a single conversation. I can put a test together to demonstrate all to the same domain and two to one domain with one to a different domain this morning. I'll also post the SMTP configuration with those results this evening.

Mike.

Here are the SMTP conversations -

SYSTEM>define/system TCPIP$SMTP_SYMB_TRACE 1
SYSTEM>tcpip stop mail
SYSTEM>show queue tcpip$smtp*
Generic server queue TCPIP$SMTP_JAGUAR_00, stopped

Server queue TCPIP$SMTP_JAGUAR_01, stopped, on JAGUAR::, mounted form DEFAULT
SYSTEM>tcpip start mail
SYSTEM>mail

MAIL> send
To: mdo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,mpn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,mis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subj: test 1
Enter your message below. Press CTRL/Z when complete, or CTRL/C to quit:
All three addresses in a single domain.
Exit

MAIL> exit
SYSTEM>
SYSTEM>
SYSTEM>
SYSTEM>
SYSTEM>mail

MAIL> send
To: mdo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,mis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,obermd@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subj: Test 2
Enter your message below. Press CTRL/Z when complete, or CTRL/C to quit:
Two addresses to wakeassoc.com. One address to alum.mit.edu
Exit

MAIL> exit
SYSTEM>dir tcpip$smtp_logfile.log

Directory SYS$SPECIFIC:[TCPIP$SMTP]

TCPIP$SMTP_LOGFILE.LOG;62 TCPIP$SMTP_LOGFILE.LOG;61

Total of 2 files.
SYSTEM>type tcpip$smtp_logfile.log

%%%%%%%%%%%% 13-NOV-2008 06:55:37.99 %%%%%%%%%%%%
%TCPIP-I-SMTP_LOGSUC, using log file SYS$SPECIFIC:[TCPIP$SMTP]TCPIP$SMTP_LOGFILE.LOG

%%%%%%%%%%%% 13-NOV-2008 06:55:38.41 %%%%%%%%%%%%
%TCPIP-I-SMTP_SYMBRUN, symbiont is running the queue TCPIP$SMTP_JAGUAR_01
recv buf=220 apollo.wakeassoc.com Microsoft ESMTP MAIL Service, Version: 6.0.3790.3959 ready at Thu, 13 Nov 2008 06:54:36 -0700 \0d
\0a
send buf=HELO jaguar.wakeassoc.com\0d\0a
recv buf=250 apollo.wakeassoc.com Hello []\0d\0a
send buf=MAIL FROM:<system@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>\0d\0a
recv buf=250 2.1.0 system@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx OK\0d\0a
send buf=RCPT TO:<MDO@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>\0d\0a
recv buf=250 2.1.5 MDO@xxxxxxxxxxxxx \0d\0a
send buf=RCPT TO:<MPN@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>\0d\0a
recv buf=250 2.1.5 MPN@xxxxxxxxxxxxx \0d\0a
send buf=RCPT TO:<MIS@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>\0d\0a
recv buf=250 2.1.5 MIS@xxxxxxxxxxxxx \0d\0a
send buf=DATA\0d\0a
recv buf=354 Start mail input; end with <CRLF>.<CRLF>\0d\0a
send buf=Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 06:55:55 -0700 (MST)\0d\0a
send buf=Message-Id: <08111306555588_31517@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>\0d\0a
send buf=From: system@xxxxxxxxxxxxx\0d\0a
send buf=To: MDO@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, MPN@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, MIS@xxxxxxxxxxxxx\0d\0a
send buf=Subject: test 1\0d\0a
send buf=X-VMS-To: MDO@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,MPN@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,MIS@xxxxxxxxxxxxx\0d\0a
send buf=\0d\0a
send buf=All three addresses in a single domain.\0d\0a
send buf=.\0d\0a
recv buf=250 2.6.0 <08111306555588_31517@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Queued mail for delivery\0d\0a
send buf=QUIT\0d\0a
recv buf=221 2.0.0 apollo.wakeassoc.com Service closing transmission channel\0d\0a
recv buf=220 apollo.wakeassoc.com Microsoft ESMTP MAIL Service, Version: 6.0.3790.3959 ready at Thu, 13 Nov 2008 06:55:56 -0700 \0d
\0a
send buf=HELO jaguar.wakeassoc.com\0d\0a
recv buf=250 apollo.wakeassoc.com Hello []\0d\0a
send buf=MAIL FROM:<system@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>\0d\0a
recv buf=250 2.1.0 system@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx OK\0d\0a
send buf=RCPT TO:<MDO@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>\0d\0a
recv buf=250 2.1.5 MDO@xxxxxxxxxxxxx \0d\0a
send buf=RCPT TO:<MIS@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>\0d\0a
recv buf=250 2.1.5 MIS@xxxxxxxxxxxxx \0d\0a
send buf=DATA\0d\0a
recv buf=354 Start mail input; end with <CRLF>.<CRLF>\0d\0a
send buf=Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 06:57:04 -0700 (MST)\0d\0a
send buf=Message-Id: <08111306570440_31517@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>\0d\0a
send buf=From: system@xxxxxxxxxxxxx\0d\0a
send buf=To: MDO@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, MIS@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, OBERMD@xxxxxxxxxxxx\0d\0a
send buf=Subject: Test 2\0d\0a
send buf=X-VMS-To: MDO@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,MIS@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,OBERMD@xxxxxxxxxxxx\0d\0a
send buf=\0d\0a
send buf=Two addresses to wakeassoc.com. One address to alum.mit.edu\0d\0a
send buf=.\0d\0a
recv buf=250 2.6.0 <08111306570440_31517@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Queued mail for delivery\0d\0a
send buf=QUIT\0d\0a
recv buf=221 2.0.0 apollo.wakeassoc.com Service closing transmission channel\0d\0a
recv buf=220 apollo.wakeassoc.com Microsoft ESMTP MAIL Service, Version: 6.0.3790.3959 ready at Thu, 13 Nov 2008 06:55:57 -0700 \0d
\0a
send buf=HELO jaguar.wakeassoc.com\0d\0a
recv buf=250 apollo.wakeassoc.com Hello []\0d\0a
send buf=MAIL FROM:<system@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>\0d\0a
recv buf=250 2.1.0 system@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx OK\0d\0a
send buf=RCPT TO:<OBERMD@xxxxxxxxxxxx>\0d\0a
recv buf=250 2.1.5 OBERMD@xxxxxxxxxxxx \0d\0a
send buf=DATA\0d\0a
recv buf=354 Start mail input; end with <CRLF>.<CRLF>\0d\0a
send buf=Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 06:57:04 -0700 (MST)\0d\0a
send buf=Message-Id: <08111306570440_31517@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>\0d\0a
send buf=From: system@xxxxxxxxxxxxx\0d\0a
send buf=To: MDO@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, MIS@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, OBERMD@xxxxxxxxxxxx\0d\0a
send buf=Subject: Test 2\0d\0a
send buf=X-VMS-To: MDO@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,MIS@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,OBERMD@xxxxxxxxxxxx\0d\0a
send buf=\0d\0a
send buf=Two addresses to wakeassoc.com. One address to alum.mit.edu\0d\0a
send buf=.\0d\0a
recv buf=250 2.6.0 <08111306570440_31517@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Queued mail for delivery\0d\0a
send buf=QUIT\0d\0a
recv buf=221 2.0.0 apollo.wakeassoc.com Service closing transmission channel\0d\0a
SYSTEM>deassign/system tcpip$smtp_symb_trace
SYSTEM>tcpip stop mail
SYSTEM>recal show
SYSTEM>show queue tcpip$smtp*
Generic server queue TCPIP$SMTP_JAGUAR_00, stopped

Server queue TCPIP$SMTP_JAGUAR_01, stopped, on JAGUAR::, mounted form DEFAULT
SYSTEM>tcpip start mail

Here's the SMTP configuration.

SYSTEM>tcpip
TCPIP> show service smtp/perm/full

Service: SMTP

Port: 25 Protocol: TCP Address: 0.0.0.0
Inactivity: 5 User_name: TCPIP$SMTP Process: TCPIP$SMTP
Limit: 10

File: TCPIP$SYSTEM:TCPIP$SMTP_RECV_RUN.COM
Flags: Listen TCPIP IPv6

Socket Opts: Rcheck Scheck
Receive: 0 Send: 0

Log Opts: Acpt Actv Dactv Conn Error Exit Logi Logo Mdfy Rjct TimO Addr
File: SYS$SPECIFIC:[TCPIP$SMTP]TCPIP$SMTP_RECV_RUN.LOG

Security
Reject msg: not defined
Accept host: 0.0.0.0
Accept netw: 0.0.0.0


TCPIP> show config smtp/full

SMTP Configuration
Options
Initial interval: 0 00:30:00.00 Address_max: 16 EIGHT_BIT
Retry interval: 0 01:00:00.00 Hop_count_max: 16 RELAY
Maximum interval: 3 00:00:00.00 TOP_HEADERS

Timeout Initial Mail Receipt Data Terminate
Send: 5 5 5 3 10
Receive: 5

Alternate gateway: MAIL.WAKEASSOC.COM
General gateway: not defined

Substitute domain: HIDDEN, WAKEASSOC.COM
Zone: WAKEASSOC.COM

Postmaster: SYSTEM
Log file: SYS$SPECIFIC:[TCPIP$SMTP]TCPIP$SMTP_LOGFILE.LOG

Generic queue Queues Participating nodes

TCPIP$SMTP_JAGUAR_00 1 JAGUAR
TCPIP> exit

The server MAIL.Wakeassoc.com is a DNS A record that points to Apollo.

Mike.


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