Re: [Info-vax] IPSec - Dear God in heaven NO!

David J Dachtera wrote:
Richard Maher wrote:
"JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:00163f2a$0$23343$c3e8da3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
I implore you to stop criticising VMS engineers or ann mcquaid for the
next few months.
You'll have to quote a bit more liberally, or at least give me some clue as
to what your posting about or replying to.
D'ya ever here the old saying, "You'll attract more (bugs) with honey
than with vinegar"?

Specifically, this kind of talk does not advance the OpenVMS cause one
iota:

Richard Maher wrote:
But I personally know of several completely useless twats that continue to
suckle their exorbitant salaries at the VMS license-payer teat, so it is
inconveivable that Ann would have similtaneously retrenched tens of talented
and productive engineers?

Quite revealing to see who's managed to dawdle in the trenches after she's
blown the whistle!

Put yourself in the other person's shoes.

Who would YOU rather do business with?

The snake - coiled, hissing and poised for attack?

...or the snake charmer, calmly trying to coax the snake into docility?

In the end, it doesn't matter whether "they" are wrong or not: "THEY"
hold the cards - it's THEIR game, and "THEY" make the rules.

I don't think those that make decisions at HP are affected in any
way (not positive not negative) by Richards posts. They don't read
comp.os.vms !

But there comes a point where it is more N than S.

And in general it would be a good thing if the VMS community
appeared to be a bunch of IT professionals not a bunch of
people with no clue about how to behave.

Arne
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