Re: disposition of largest private DEC collection in USA
From: John Smith (a_at_nonymous.com)
Date: 01/25/05
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:20:48 -0500
patrick jankowiak wrote:
> Morten Reistad wrote:
>
>> In article <41F31CAE.6000803@swbell.net>,
>> patrick jankowiak <eccm@swbell.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I have wanted to start a computer museum here at the University
>>>> for a long time. I figured if I could get commitments from a
>>>> few corporations for operating funds I could probably convince
>>>> the University to give me the necessary space. But I really
>>>> don't know how to go about finding corporate sponsers. :-(
>>>> My idea is to have a real hands on facility where people can
>>>> come in and actually play with the equipment. I would also
>>>> make as much of it as I could available on the INTERNET with
>>>> guest accounts. But, I'm probably just dreaming again.
>>
>>
>> Corporate sponsors are just as shallow. We need to come up
>> with a workable museum first.
>>
>>
>>> I wish we could do this. There's a hell of a datacenter here just
>>> waiting to be unzipped. It's what we wanted.. (makes me want to
>>> listen to "all we ever wanted" by Bauhaus) Man I am trying to keep
>>> a good mindset but this step is getting me down. It has to be done
>>> though.
>>>
>>> OPCOM
>>
>>
>> A computer museum will need large amounts of space; as well as
>> access to largish amounts of energy when someone decides to run
>> the machines. Much can be mocked up for the standard visitor, using
>> emulators to show software on the correct terminals. But machines
>> must be kept intact. We also have the issue of documentation.
>>
>> Such space fast becomes the major problem. It cannot be in or very
>> near major cities, because land is too expensive there. And the scale
>> of this is big enough for a full theme park.
>>
>> So why not do this?
>>
>> Make a theme park around technology development and preservation.
>> Remember that the audience is a premium one for many locations.
>> The nerds or wannabees that visit such places have above average
>> income, are not very inclined to boozing and gambling, and tend
>> to leave the facilities without damage.
>>
>> It will have to be located somewhere outside the mainstream, and
>> must be the magnet for people itself. Just like Disney World.
>>
>> -- mrr
>>
>>
>
> Sweet.. Need $ and $.. That would be very nice,
> have everything from pre-vacuum tube stuff on up.
> A home for analog computers too, yeah.. I could see
> it on 100 acres. Mostly indoors of course as geeks
> don't like the hot weather much..
>
> The place could become a location of pilgrimages where
> acolytes could chant in octal and wizards could perform
> 5-way merges on relational databases in an afternoon
> while across the park, boy electricians made huge
> sparks fly by selecting the right capacitors..
>
> Microphones could be placed on the HDA's of grumbling
> RA81's and during this activity, connected to
> amplified subwoofers under the spinning platter-shaped
> floor in the next room - a "hard disk ride"
> "Ride the RA-81 Platter like a dust speck!!
> Watch out for the heads!!"
> Space mountain's got nothing on this one!
>
> Rides wouln't be the real attraction though, just a
> minor diversion. The interactive exhibits of all kinds,
> that's the key. The real VAXclusters and the 11/780
> with doors open to show off the cards. A LINUX Beowulf
> cluster, paper tape, DECtape, 9-track tape, 8-track tape.
> And the blinkenlights stuff in a room where the lights
> dim evey several minutes or so. When the lights dim,
> AM radios tuned to the music of each machine come on,
> machines programmed to play music via the RFI. I
> know some remember doing that on pdp8's and other
> stately machines.
>
> On the other stuff, ever programmed an analog computer?
> Talk about an experience. There's lots of classic
> technology pieces out there, tons of test equipment
> with real CRT's, and machines like plasma generators
> from depostion processes, ever notice how you can measure
> plasma density by measuring the attenuation of a
> microwave beam through the plasma chamber?
>
> The progress of everything high tech:
> computers
> RF
> audio
> Germanium transistors (if anyone recalls those)
> plain old electricity
> tesla coil (very very large)
> open-frame dynamos
> what else?
>
> Might cost what $100M to start?
>
> The only geek with enough $ to start something like that,
> and enough daring to pull it off is Mr. Gates.
>
> It's wonderful and would probably make tons of
> moolah.. Who's going to call Bill?
You'd probably have more luck with Allen, Wozniak, and Ellison. Maybe even
Ross Perot.
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