Re: Hello Again: HP Alpha Server and OS install

From: GM (logquality_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 09/25/05

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    Freakin Amazing.

    Pete my boy... you deserve a big *Thumbs UP for your assistance.

    I had lost all hope for the European Continent until I read your response.

    Damn boy... you got good english.

    Yeah... I got 3 PC's. 2 AMD, 1 Intel.

    It's all we poor North Americans can afford.

    Here's an Idea----- I Install NetBSD on the scsi drive on my PC, then put
    the HD back in the Alpha machine.

    Presto.....Alakazzam....and Bill is yer Uncle!

    The Alpha Machine Boots to the OS and...... all is well.

    (out of curiosity.....why do I want to play around with an 8 Year old (Steam
    Powered) machine?

    I dunno......

    Cheers

    "Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER" <peter@langstoeger.at> wrote in message
    news:4335d397$1@news.langstoeger.at...
    > In article <S1hZe.269453$HI.248202@edtnps84>, "GM"
    <logquality@hotmail.com> writes:
    > >The Model of the Server I have is the HP Alpha Server 800 5/333
    > >
    > >It is a 333mhz cpu and has 128mb memory with 2* 9.1G scsi drives and 1*
    4G
    > >scsi drive.
    >
    > A good system for OpenVMS ;-)
    >
    > >The BIOS identifies as 5.69 version and has the Options to install WinNT,
    > >OPENvms and True64.
    >
    > OpenVMS, Tru64.
    > And don't forget Linux, NetBSD, OpenBSD, FreeBSD, VxWorks and so on
    >
    > Firmware for the AlphaServer 800 is located here
    >
    > http://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/archive/as800.html
    >
    > Its version is numbered after the SRM. V5.8 (which is the last version for
    > the AS800) does contain ARC/AlphaBIOS V5.70 - so you could upgrade (but
    you
    > don't need to as the only change seem to be for the KZPCC-CE RAID ctrl)...
    >
    > http://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/readmes/archive/as800/
    >
    > >I have a copy of Windows NT 3.1 that I p2p'd and I burned it as an ISO. I
    > >ran a successful install on my desktop system as a test.
    >
    > Desktop ? You mean a WINTEL toy ?
    > Binaries for INTEL and Alpha (and PowerPC and MIPS) are different of
    course.
    > So that does not qualify as a test for a good/errorfree/working media...
    >
    > >The problem with the install seems to be:
    > >
    > >#1 Me (a total newb to anything other than recent Amd and Intel systems)
    >
    > Ok. Here is a good place to start.
    > And if you are familiar with newsgroups you can RTF FAQ of this group
    > and of the COMP.OS.VMS as well
    >
    > http://www.hp.com/go/openvms/faq/
    >
    > http://www.windows.digital.com/ was the original site but is no longer
    > maybe http://www.alphant.com and some (very few) other sites will help
    you...
    >
    > >#2 The BIOS/ARC/SRM
    >
    > ARC is the "BIOS" (yes, with an INTEL binary compatible system) for use
    > with M$ Windows NT (3.0, 3.1, 3.5, 3.51, 4.0 and 5.0RC1, 5.0RC2) and
    Linux.
    >
    > SRM is the console software for use with OpenVMS and Tru64 UNIX (and
    others).
    >
    > >#3 Me
    >
    > Ask again, learn, and don't give up too early. And don't forget to try
    OpenVMS.
    >
    > >#4 Perhaps I should just get a copy of NT 4.0(is it a different build for
    > >Alpha?)
    >
    > Yes, it is. But IIRC it was located on the same 4.0 CD in another
    directory.
    > (with V5.0 RCx it was on another - IIRC MSDN - CD). And yes, start with
    V4.0
    >
    > >#5 I can get into BIOS but have no idea what ARC and SRM is...and how to
    > >access them.
    >
    > ARC and AlphaBIOS is the same. SRM is a different console program.
    >
    > You can switch from SRM to ARC/AlphaBIOS with a >>>SET OS_TYPE NT
    > (or something like that) and a repower of the system. And you can switch
    > back from ARC/AlphaBIOS to SRM by some (sub or subsub) menu entry (use F2
    > to enter the Setup Mode of ARC/AlphaBIOS) and again a repower of the
    system
    > (factory default - or with an empty BIOS battery - seems to be
    ARC/AlphaBIOS).
    >
    > You may need to switch to SRM for an Alpha F/W upd but I'm not sure on
    that...
    >
    > >#6 Using the "Install Windows NT" option in the BIOS it does not
    recognise
    > >my burned winNT 3.1 disk
    >
    > You need also the HAL CD first.
    > I remember to have used 4 or 5 (HAL, Graphic and Sound Driver, and so on)
    > different CDs and diskettes and only one of them was the original
    > M$ WinNT 4.0 CD which I all got with my PWS433au (with a PowerStorm 4D50T)
    > and also downloaded from the web because of newer versions.
    >
    > Better forget 3.1 alltogether. There you might not find a HAL now at
    all...
    >
    > And consider also, that older CD-ROM drives do not recognize self burned
    > media (where current CD-ROMs have absolutely no problem with). Better try
    > original CDs and/or a newer drives also...
    >
    > >Upon an unsucessful attempt to install an OS, I will proceed to PLAN B.
    >
    > Which is ? OpenVMS ? Fine...
    >
    > But modify Plan A to start with NT4 or NT5 RCx instead of V3.1 ...
    >
    > --
    > Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER
    > Network and OpenVMS system specialist
    > E-mail peter@langstoeger.at
    > A-1030 VIENNA AUSTRIA I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist

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