Re: @ symbol deleting all preceeding input at command line?

From: Frank Slootweg (this_at_ddress.is.invalid)
Date: 09/21/05


Date: 21 Sep 2005 17:40:14 GMT

mkirsch1@rochester.rr.com wrote:
> If I could quote, I would,

  You can. See the Google Groups preferences or whatever they are
called. This issue is also addressed in GG's help.

> but then you'd probably go "NetCop" on me
> anyway and tell me I quoted too little or too much, or I top posted, or
> I bottom posted... You'd find something wrong and attack me for it.

  I did *not* attack you. What I gave was a sarcastic counter example of
something which is (not) "dumb".

> ^U is the standard kill character. HP-UX is the only operating system
> out there that sets it to @ by default. Again, I ask why?

  If you had read the reference which I gave, termio(7), you would have
seen that '@' is the (SVID/XPG) standard (see "STANDARDS CONFORMANCE").
If you see something else, then *something/someone* has set it to a
different value. Also in HP-UX, *.profile and friends* [1] set it to a
different value, but if, *as noted*, .profile and friends are not
executed, the kill character will be at the termio(7) default of '@'.

> And yes, it is DUMB. You can't send an email without @. That's like
> setting the Enter key as EOF.

  The standard *predates* the use of '@' in e-mail addresses. So, *if*
anything is "dumb", it's the use of a kill character in an e-mail
address. (*Not* saying it is dumb, just saying *if* ....)

> Thanks to those who gave HELPFUL responses, and I thumb my nose at
> those who see fit to only offer personal attacks.

  I *helped* you, but instead of being grateful for that help, *you*
'attacked' HP-UX and the FAQ, out of ignorance [2]. I only returned the
favor.

  So get off your high horse and start *reading* what people write c.q.
tell you to read.

[1] AFAIK, it's actually /etc/profile and /etc/csh.login which set this
(and some other file(s) for when you're not yet logged in (i.e. for '@'
in user name or/and password).

[2] "ignorance" as in not-knowing, *not* as in stupid.



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