Re: SGI Freeware Feb. 2004

From: S.Chang (shu.chang_at_mapson.ieee.org)
Date: 01/30/04 

Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 16:39:16 GMT

I R A Darth Aggie wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 10:54:35 GMT,
> S.Chang <shu.chang@mapson.ieee.org>, in
> <LJqSb.1470$gK4.14231675@news-text.cableinet.net> wrote:
>
>
>>+ Is that all you know? open source? take a look into GPL, it has more
>>+ restrictions than commercial softwares,
>
>
> Have you actually *read* the typical EULA that comes with those
> commercial softwares? Have you actually *read* the GPL?
>
Lets see, if I released my 3.5G's HSDL algorithm under GPL, I would need
to "share" the code with the rest of the world, sounds good, but what
about security? what's stopping people from using my code and create
their own equipment so they can browse the web for free on their hand set?
what about copy right? if a multi billion dollar company decided to
modify my code and use it as their own, how is GPL going to protect my
copy right?
You have company such as Sun, SGI, HP and IBM supporting their own
version of Unix, so we can safely develope softwares and hardwares on
it, what about Linux? who is supporting Linux? which Linux vendors is
willing to support Hard RT applications running on their OS? and GPL
states NO WARRENTY, huh! don't we all love to have a
get-out-of-jail-free card.

>
>>+ at least I can use commercial Unix and know everything we developed
>>+ in the lab can be published without any questions being asked by the
>>+ vendors, can you do that with softwares under GPL?
>
>
> Huh? this doesn't parse for me.
>
> If anything, third party resellers should be asking their
> closed-source software vendors if they're cheating in the production
> cycle by violating the GPL and including purloined GPL code and
> placing it into their offerings.
>
>
How many programers working on Linux are from traditional Unix vendors?
without the efforts from Sun, SGI, IBM and HP, what would Linux become
today?

>>+ Not everything is all abut parallel processing, how many CPUs can Linux
>>+ handle in an SMP system? 2? 4? 8? how about over 100 CPUs in vertical
>>+ config? can "young" Linux handle that?
>
>
> http://www.sgi.com/servers/altix/whitepapers/index.html
>
> Linux Scalability for the Altix 3000 (PDF 85K)
> This paper describes how SGI adapted the SGI Linux Environment to
> support single system scalability to 128 processors, and developed an
> overall operating environment specifically for HPC applications.
>
Well, maybe SGI made something I don't know, but the one I have access
to from EPSRC
http://www.csar.cfs.ac.uk/newton/
It consists of 4 x 64CPUs node, not yet capable of running over 100 CPU
per node, therefor 3700 is a cluster, not single node HPC yet.

S.Chang

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