Re: Intel misses Itanium sales (...SGI moved just over 1,000 boxes...)

From: Tim Cutts (timc_at_chiark.greenend.org.uk)
Date: 03/01/05

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    In article <010320050148027946%arsche@xs4all.nl>,
    arie van schutterhoef <arsche@xs4all.nl> wrote:
    >Hopefully SGI (previously proudly called Silicon Graphics) manages the
    >same...

    Personally, I think SGI are playing very canny at the moment. The high
    end workstation market is so reduced now they could never make money at
    it any more, and are right to be withdrawing.

    The same goes for the low-mid end server market. That market is
    saturated; HP and IBM dominate it, and there are any number of other
    players too.

    The market is being taken over by Linux; in order to compete, SGI
    needed to offer that OS. Proprietary UNIX is dead, and SGI are merely
    following the market (as are Sun, HP and IBM - they all still have their
    own UNIX, but they're all supporting Linux too).

    They had a classic niche offering in the Origin 3000; no-one else
    makes anything like it. Porting it to Linux was an obvious step to
    compete with the Linux clusters which form most of the Top 500 now.

    As others have pointed out, further development of MIPS in-house would
    not have been cost effective. So they committed to the up-and-coming
    IA64 architecture. Remember when that decision was made, there weren't
    many other choices. Opteron didn't exist, and the writing was on the
    wall for Alpha.

    And we're left with a unique product; a Linux box which you can scale
    independently in CPUs, memory, I/O. At work we needed a 4 CPU box with
    at least 128 GB of memory. We didn't really care what the processor or
    OS was - the memory/CPU ratio was the important thing. And no-one can
    build you something like that except SGI. Lovely niche market.

    But I grant you - it may not seem like that if you're one of their old
    graphics workstation customers.

    Tim


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