Re: Sun ships us bad RAM, says won't replace because it's not bad enough

From: Jini Joker (jini_joker_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 10/31/03


Date: 30 Oct 2003 19:15:53 -0800

baby_p_nut2@yahoo.com (Baby Peanut) wrote in message news:<96d83290.0310301213.38eedcb@posting.google.com>...
> Here's the error messages that Sun says aren't bad enough to mandate a
> replacement module for our brand-new system.
>
> Oct 25 20:15:30 sparky SUNW,UltraSPARC-III+: [ID 648784 kern.info]
> [AFT0] errID 0x0007f3eb.2026e5b0 Corrected Memory Error on Slot A:
> J3200 is Persistent
> Oct 26 07:15:27 sparky SUNW,UltraSPARC-III+: [ID 287047 kern.info]
> [AFT0] errID 0x00081b35.b77953b4 Corrected Memory Error on Slot A:
> J3200 is Persistent
> Oct 28 07:15:29 sparky SUNW,UltraSPARC-III+: [ID 678828 kern.info]
> [AFT0] errID 0x0008b861.bc98b6b8 Corrected Memory Error on Slot A:
> J3200 is Persistent
> Oct 28 19:15:30 sparky SUNW,UltraSPARC-III+: [ID 837396 kern.info]
> [AFT0] errID 0x0008dfad.09b8899c Corrected Memory Error on Slot A:
> J3200 is Persistent
> Oct 29 07:15:29 sparky SUNW,UltraSPARC-III+: [ID 372731 kern.info]
> [AFT0] errID 0x000906f7.a4081b04 Corrected Memory Error on Slot A:
> J3200 is Persistent
> Oct 29 19:15:27 sparky SUNW,UltraSPARC-III+: [ID 648491 kern.info]
> [AFT0] errID 0x00092e42.782a221c Corrected Memory Error on Slot A:
> J3200 is Persistent
>
> Does Sun treat all their customers like this?

The DIMM needs to be replaced. The reason the errors are being
reported every 12 hours is due to the Solaris memory scrubber which
runs every 12 hours. The memory scrubber detects and corrects any bit
flips which it finds. As the scrubber is picking this error up every
12 hours despite it correcting the error 12 hours before means the
DIMM has a "weak cell" and should be replaced.

Further Suns guidelines state that a memory module must experience 3
or more persistent memory errors in a 24 hour period to warrant
replacement. As you can see that is the case eg:

 Oct 28 19:15:30 sparky SUNW,UltraSPARC-III+: [ID 837396 kern.info]
> [AFT0] errID 0x0008dfad.09b8899c Corrected Memory Error on Slot A:
> J3200 is Persistent
> Oct 29 07:15:29 sparky SUNW,UltraSPARC-III+: [ID 372731 kern.info]
> [AFT0] errID 0x000906f7.a4081b04 Corrected Memory Error on Slot A:
> J3200 is Persistent
> Oct 29 19:15:27 sparky SUNW,UltraSPARC-III+: [ID 648491 kern.info]
> [AFT0] errID 0x00092e42.782a221c Corrected Memory Error on Slot A:
> J3200 is Persistent

BTW Sun has a document on these memory errors available for download.
I would refer the person who advised against replacing the module to
look at: (and specifically check out the last page)

http://sunsolve.sun.com/data/816/816-5053/pdf/816-5053-10.pdf

HTH.



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