Re: Performance and Graphics on SB1000



On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:02:33 +0100, Stefaan A Eeckels wrote:

On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 16:01:48 +0000
Steve <stek1961NO@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 2006-02-22 15:12:17 +0000, Steve <stek1961NO@xxxxxxxxxxx> said:

SB1K, one 750 proc, 1gb RAM, Expert3D (ie not lite).

I find it not much faster than the U60 dual 360 I had before, bit
disappointed actually. Another proc might ramp it up but as it's
basically a desktop for me I don't think it will help that much.

But the gfx are the real heartbreaker, the Expert is no better than
the Elite or the Creator I had before, PCI vs UPA admittedly but
still. All I want is snappier window movements not into games or 3D
stuff.

I'm rather pleased with the Elite3D which I salvaged from my Ultra 60
(also 2x360MHz) and put in my SB2K. There's some slight jerkiness when
dragging windows around, but then I only need that very occasionally.
Scroll speed in virtual terminals is a lot slower now that all fonts are
anti-aliased, but it's quite acceptable. I ran Sun's Gnome 2.0 for a
while, and that was lightning fast compared to the U60.

So I bid on an XVR-500 on Ebay but decided against it in the end,
thinking this card isn't not much better than the Expert3D, any
opinions?

Am I better looking at the XVR-1000? The 600's and 1200's are out
of my range! Or again, am I looking at a marginal improvement?


IMHO the XVR-1000 will be a lot faster than the XVR-500. In addition it
uses an UPA slot which can only be good for throughput.

Also is there any real reason not to try the Expert3D in the bottom
66meg slot? I know Sun say not to but is it just a support/untested
issue rather than a technical one? If I did would it offer any
improvement?

I don't know - it wouldn't hurt to try as it's unlikely the card or
machine would be fried.

Running Solaris 10/JDS3, patched up as allowed by Sun nowadays.
Additionally I'm wondering if installing Medialibs would help as
Sun Docs suggest. I have OpenGL installed and the demos perform
quite admirably but as I say, not into that, just a smooth desktop
is all I want!

MediaLibs make a significant difference in my case. I suggest you try
it.


Done that! Also I've tried CDE and WindowMaker, much better. I knew Gnome
was a hog but I'd forgotten how much, I used to play with 1.4 and 2.0 on
Solaris but this is my first play with JDS on Sparc apart from Sunray
installs.

In the end I've stayed with JDS, but changed the theme around a bit and
now it feels much better, still not cheap PC gfx better but not bad.


I just fired up my old Octane (dual 195's) and it's great, much more
responsive.....

Dilemma!

The sgi (I have the same one) isn't running Gnome. If you'd try and
get Gnome 2.6 (the foundation of JDS) to run on a 195MHz Octane, you
would cry buckets.

CDE on my old Utra 60 with a Creator3D is very fast compared to Sun's
old Gnome 2.0 (pre-JDS) and Gnome 2.0 is a lot "snappier" than JDS
(the anti-aliasing that is done in JDS is a real display speed killer).

On my 2x900MHz SB2K with the Elite3Dm3, the graphics speed is quite
acceptable (in the same league as an Athlon 2000+ with a low-range
Nvidia frame buffer). I've been ogling an XVR-1000, but mainly to get
higher resolution than the Elite's 1280x1024.


I'm on a Sun 18.1" LCD so better res no good to me! The XVR-1000's I've
seen on ebay seem to go around 200 dollars, I'm tempted but really unless
it's going to mean a two or three fold improvement I'll stick with what
I've got!

Thanks for the input!

Steve

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