Re: General sun hardware questions

rpasken@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Mar 13, 5:10 pm, Thomas Tornblom <tho...@xxxxxx> wrote:
Huge <H...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
On 2007-03-13, Dennis Grevenstein <dennis.grevenst...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
An Ultra60 is not a small machine IMHO. It's a pretty
heavy and solid machine.
Also noisy and chucks out a lot of heat.
Yup, which is why I have just replaced mine with a small 1.5 GHz Via
C7 based shoebox, which is very quiet and draws around 40W, instead of
the 150 - 200W of the U60, besides beeing way faster :-)



I love it. :o)

The Ultra-60 and the Blade-1000 both are large, heavy, noisy, power-
sucking machines and the shuttle-type PC's indeed are smaller and
quieter. If all you are doing is web-surfing and light develpment the
shuttle-type PC's are a good choice, If you are doing heavy numerical
work the Sparc's beat the PC's hands down. Using my radar analysis
code and numerical modeling code it takes an AMD Opteron with 3 times
the clock speed to equal the 900Mhz UltraSparc-III in my Blade 1000.
Since I can buy a well-equiped Blade-1000 for under $400 I have a
Blade-1000 at home. I can buy a Ultra-10 with a Creator-3D for $15 and
put a $5 SiiG ATA-100 card along with 250gb disk in the Ultra-10 the
Sparc wins on cost.


Need to be careful. Your 1000 and my 2000 have REAL III processors,
that is... the IIIcu. Considerably better performer (though it
needs more power/cooling) than the IIIi. I mention that just in
case somebody goes to Sun looking for something NEW with a
SPARC III processor... you won't be getting a IIIcu.

I'll admit, the IIIcu was a nice CPU. Shame Sun has created
such a huge gap now between the IIIi and the IV's.

(Granted, we may all be wanting an N2 by the end of the year)

With regards to Opterons, the w2100z, which I own one, and I like it,
can be had in some cases for $500 - $1000 in various
configurations... and it runs circles around my SB2000 (2x900Mhz).

My primary home workstation is a ZmazD2 (2x275 Opterons). It's
a SFF, but it's a bit loud. Should be able to assemble one with
4G and a 300G drive and 7600GT for about $2100. Add another $1000
if you want decent high end Quadro board.

Would be nice if Sun would release a BIOS for dual cores for the
w2100z (IBM uses the same board and does support dual core with
theirs as well as the daughter card swap to take it to
PCIe and SAS). Oh well... Sun just wants to sell you/me a new
box I guess.

Power consumption? Well my ZmaxD2 four way Opteron uses
a 300W power supply. I'll admit, it consumes power, but for
what you get out of it, it's worth it.
.

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