Re: Reality Check: HP-UX has no future

From: Rusty Wright (rusty_at_socrates.Berkeley.EDU)
Date: 10/04/04

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    I'd say that she's an "apparent Sun employee" and a Sun marketing
    toady from looking at her email address and previous posts.

    My opinion is that I think Sun should spend more energy solving their
    own problems instead of trying to make marketing hay from what they
    construe as their competitors' mistakes.

    A few personal examples that spring to mind:

    We bought a Dell server to run a web server and I was keen to run
    Solaris X86 on it since I know Solaris well. But it was a no-go
    because Solaris X86 doesn't support the PERC raid controller that's in
    the Dell. And, as you might guess, Linux and Windows boot up and work
    flawlessly on the Dell.

    I recently replaced my desktop Sparc 5 with a 150. I have a spare 250
    gig IDE disk that I assumed that I could put in the 150 since the 150
    is Sun's current desktop system. Imagine my amazement on installing
    it and discovering that the 150 doesn't support IDE disks larger than
    132 gig or thereabouts; it has only EIDE, not Ultra ATA. A $399 entry
    level PC from Dell comes with Ultra ATA. You probably can't even find
    a PC maker that makes PCs with EIDE.

    Abdullah Ramazanoglu <abdullah@ramazanoglu.tr> writes:

    > begin cathy.arima@sun.com (Cathy Arima) dedi ki:
    >
    > > Less than two years after abandoning its inherited Tru64 UNIX
    > > customers, HP seems on the same path once again to abandon another
    > > one of its very loyal customer bases. This time it is its HP-UX UNIX
    > > customer base, which is now beginning to see signs that HP may not
    > > be committed to the HP-UX UNIX business for the long haul.
    > >
    > > Read about it here:
    > > http://www.sun.com/executives/realitycheck/reality-091004.html?ssobm=ng
    >
    > Well, I'm an open source activist, an ex-admin of IBM mainframes and AIX,
    > but never have I been a Sun user. Having lived long years in proprietary
    > vendor circles, I am familiar with how it feels and how it leads people to
    > be part of the vendor's world. It is particularly true for IBM, as a first
    > hand personal experience. IME it was a closed clan of users centered
    > around one vendor. It was even affecting the jargon we use.
    >
    > I was reborn into the open source world when I broke off the mental
    > shackles of IBM more than 5 years ago. I'm telling this both to establish
    > the background, and to invite you, an apparent Sun fan, into questioning
    > Sun's position under a somewhat more objective light.
    >
    > I think Sun has both quitted being an open source ally in favor of
    > Microsoft, and also their business decisions are very, very flawed to earn
    > them a right to criticise HP. Of course these are my own thoughts, and I
    > would like to know how Sun people think about Sun's new horizons.
    >
    > So, could you please comment on my two postings below?
    > (They're both in the same thread)
    >
    > http://groups.google.com.tr/groups?as_umsgid=2rdr4uF19e6t9U1@uni-berlin.de
    > http://groups.google.com.tr/groups?as_umsgid=2ri53rF1a8n1qU1@uni-berlin.de
    >
    > --
    > Abdullah | aramazan@ |
    > Ramazanoglu | myrealbox |
    > ________________| D.0.T cöm |__

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