Re: Pls help: best way to assign and maintain root password of 100 machines
From: Michael Vilain
Date: 09/13/04
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 01:10:18 -0700
In article <28073c51.0409121714.6486b85a@posting.google.com>,
st-wong@alumni.cuhk.net (ST Wong) wrote:
> st-wong@alumni.cuhk.net (ST Wong) wrote in message
> news:<28073c51.0409081757.5298a045@posting.google.com>...
> > Hi, all,
> >
> > We're maintaining ~100 Uni*x and Windows machines. However, I've no
> > idea of how to assign the passwords so that our team members can
> > memorize the passwords without writing them down or having to use
> > similar passwords for all the machines. Meanwhile, I want to change
> > the root passwords regularly, after any hacking incidence, or after
> > departure of any of our team members. This makes the problem worse.
> >
> > I'd like to know if there is any mechanism/tool for this purpose.
> > Would anyone pls help? Sorry for the newbie question.
>
> Thanks for all your assistance. We're using sudo for non-sysadm
> colleagues who have to perform some privileged tasks. However, our
> problem is a bit complicated, due to the fact that all these machines
> are servers sitting in our machine room, providing different functions
> with different security requirements. Furthermore, they reside in
> different firewall zones. Thus synchronizing the root passwords on
> all of them will be risky. Thus our problem becomes 2 folded:
> - painful to change root passwords 100+ machines regularly
> - difficult to remember the newly changed 100+ passwords
>
> Sorry for not making the question clear.
>
> Thanks again.
> Best Regards,
> /ST Wong
You've essentially painted yourself into a corner. There's no easy way
to network synchronize these systems as they're all different. In my
last contract, they had 20 Enterprise servers which were all discrete.
They managed to group the servers in to various access groups. When
passwords where changed (ever 60 days), we go a sealed envelop that had
the root password for the systems. We were told not to put that list
anywhere obvious and we were responsible for it's security. Since root
was only allowed on the consoles (no ftp, telnet, or ssh root access),
you had to go into the computer room behind a card key access door,
sign-in with operations, and use a console. Only IT staff was allowed
in the computer room.
They eventually got a product called PowerBroker by Sysmark that is like
a networked 'sudo' with a centralized access list. That restricted the
only time needed to use root on the console was when there's an outage
and you need to login to single-user mode. Boot CD's are under lock and
key, so booting off them to gain access is restricted. A manager had to
provide the root password when there was an outage, making two people
who had to be awakened at 4am on Sunday when there's a disk outage.
There's no easy way around changing passwords on 100 systems. You've
outlined circumstances that limit you to this option only. I feel your
pain. Unless you revisit implementing some sort of authentication
service on all the systems and tie them together, you're out of luck.
-- DeeDee, don't press that button! DeeDee! NO! Dee...
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