Re: unable to send mail from UNIX

From: Dave Hinz (DaveHinz_at_spamcop.net)
Date: 11/25/05 

Date: 25 Nov 2005 16:39:51 GMT

On 25 Nov 2005 13:57:17 GMT, jpd <read_the_sig@do.not.spam.it.invalid> wrote:
> Begin <3uogkcF12d4vbU5@individual.net>
> On 2005-11-25, Dave Hinz <DaveHinz@spamcop.net> wrote:
>> MAC is something entirely different. Mac OSX is FreeBSD with an Apple
>> GUI, for the purposes of any Unix question.
>
> Please don't perpetuate this myth. It causes newbies with questions
> about macosx in cubfm that people there don't know how to answer.

What, specifically, do you disagree with, _in this context_? And "myth"
implies it's wrong. Now you're going to tell me how some esoteric
whatever is subtly different, which, as I said, isn't relevant.

> Altough apple took (amongst others) FreeBSD code and based darwin on
> it, but only loosely, and that isn't quite the same as what you say.
> For example, apple itself then says it also used the mach kernel, which
> simply is not used at all in FreeBSD. That is perhaps the most striking
> core example I can give, but it certainly isn't the only difference.
> (Netinfo part of the gui? I think not. And so on.)

Any distro can add to, or change, what it's distributed with. Doesn't
change the basic fact that I'm sitting at a FreeBSD box at the moment,
with an Apple GUI.

Tell me, does Sendmail know or care what it's on? For this question,
then, does it matter if it's a Mach kernel, a wazzit kernel, or a
floobydust kernel? No. This is an MTA question, not a kernel
architecture question. FOR THE CONTECT OF THE QUESTION, my description
is accurate enough.

> But I do wish people would
> be less shallow and simplistic in their assumptions about it. If you
> don't believe me, I encourage you to take the FreeBSD handbook[1] and
> a macintosh running macosx, and figure out how much of what is in the
> handbook actually practically applies to macosx. I'd love to hear your
> findings.

My findings are that you're a pompous, condescending person, jumping in
with a non-helpful answer on a point unrelated to the question making a
distinction that doesn't matter at all in this context.

We've _had_ the "This OS isn't Unix-ish enough to merit inclusion here"
troll, and he went away. Another one isn't welcome.

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