Re: 43P-150 hangs during startup, code 517
From: Jan Rypdal (no.spam@home.com)
Date: 04/06/03
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From: "Jan Rypdal" <no.spam@home.com> Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 15:08:13 +0200
Jochen et al,
I obviously have a system (hardware?) problem, where I can only boot from
the hard drive. With the hard drive out due to the failed upgrade, I'm done.
(Next time, I'll be going step by step instead of trying to jump from 5100
directly to 5103.)
No rebuild of AIX possible, no SMS, no nothing. No service either, as the
box is 1.5 yrs old. I'll just have to drop by IBM with it anyhow.
Thank you all for your help so far. Now it's up to the local IBM repair
shop.
Regards,
Jan
"Jochen Luebbers" <luebbers@tde-online.de> wrote in message
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> Jan Rypdal schrieb:
>> I now tried to low-level format both the Seagate 8GB and the IBM 36GB
>> disks, and start with empty disks. No difference with the IBM 36GB, but
>> now also the Seagate makes the system loop forever during boot,
>> restarting after E1F1.
> That is not sureprising for me, because after the low level format the
> system has no chance to boot from your HD. And if you have no other
> bootable media in your CD/floppy drive, how should the system boot?
> But if you insert now the instalation CD (which is bootable) is your box,
> is it willing to boot from the CD?
Nope, had the CD in all the time.
> If not the CD drive is missing on your bootlist enter the SMS and add it
> to the bootmenu, *but stop*, you are not able to enter the SMS IIRC!?!
> So what now?
> - Is there any warranty for this box? => Ask IBM for help.
> - Are you rich? => Ask IBM for help.
None of the above, but I'll just have to take it to IBM for a check-up
anyhow.
> - If none of the above is true, check, if the system gives you boot
> messages on one of the serial ports.
No ASCII terminals around to test this, unfortunately.
> + If so, you should be able to enter the SMS on this port as described
> in other postings.
> + If not, you can try to put the graphics adaptor to another PCI slot.
> This will normaly force the system to ask you to confirm this adaptor
> as console, on which you should be able to get the SMS.
Tried that. No change.
> But your system had show a strange behavior earlier IIRC, so all me
> suggestions may fail, sorry.
But that in itself was valuable in determining the nature of the problem.
Thanks!
>> I assume that this may be that none of them are recognized as a boot
>> disk?
> Correct.
Since my manual mentions the IBM 9GB & 18GB disks only, I was uncertain if
the microcode only recognized and/or accepted these disks as boot disks.
However, it obviously makes no difference what sort of disk is mounted.
>> If I reformat the 9GB system disk, what may I expect to happen?
> Loss of all of your data on this disk.
I kinda expected that, of course :-)
What I had hoped for was for this to trigger a CD boot, but the ROM boot
program just goes in a loop.
>> Will this ruin my system forever,
> I don't think so, but I can give NO WARRANTY for this answer.
>
>> or are all the boot routines in microcode?
> There is enough bootcode in the ROM to start with an empty disk.
> The system than normaly boot from CD, *but* your system does not IIRC.
>
>> Or could this prompt a re-install?
> You allways have the chance to reinstall your system, *if* you manage
> to boot from the installation CD.
>
> Do you have another (running) 43P-150? You can then try to install one of
> your (empty) HDs in this system and try to boot with this HD the other
> box.
Sorry, this is my only AIX box in the lab. Somehow, I don't think creating a
Linux boot disk would help either...
> Not sure if my suggestions are any longer helpfull
They've been very helpful in determining the nature of the problem, thank
you.
Jan
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