MTU Fragmentation issue showing in AIX traceroute

From: steven_nospam at Yahoo! Canada (steven_nospam_at_yahoo.ca)
Date: 03/15/05


Date: 15 Mar 2005 06:09:12 -0800

Hi All,

I have a problem at a customer's remote site. I know my AIX but am a
bit rusty on the networking end.

What was reported is that the network printers at the site are really
slow, show SENDING in the queues for a long time, and occasionally go
into a DOWN state.

A check of the settings and the network finally turned up the following
warnings in the traceroute command:

# traceroute 192.168.80.25
trying to get source for 192.168.80.25
source should be 192.168.77.26
traceroute to 192.168.80.25 (192.168.80.25) from 192.168.77.26
(192.168.77.26),
30 hops max
outgoing MTU = 1500
 1 192.168.77.3 (192.168.77.3) 4 ms 7 ms 3 ms
 2 25.176.38.58 (25.177.38.58) 5 ms
fragmentation required, trying new MTU = 1492
 2 * 5 ms
fragmentation required, trying new MTU = 1480
 2 * 5 ms
fragmentation required, trying new MTU = 1472
 2 * 113 ms
fragmentation required, trying new MTU = 1006
 2 utahlp4 (192.168.80.25) 149 ms 89 ms 96 ms

I understand that AIX is performing PMTU discovery and altering the MTU
size down until it hits on a value that is acceptable to both the
sender and the receiver.

What seems to be doing this is a Cisco router or some equipment at the
remote site. However, I am not getting too much support for this theory
from the network admin at the remote site.

I was going to contact our IBM AIX Support desk until I noted that the
fragmentation is not coming from OTHER remote branches when I
traceroute from the RS/6000. I may do so anyway for a second opinion.
Just wondering if anyone has ever encountered this and has some
thoughts on what I can have them check?

TIA for any advice or suggestions.

Steve



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