Re: MS telnet w/ alternate terminal type?
- From: "Michael W. Ryder" <_mwryder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:03:40 GMT
Charles Lavin wrote:
I cannot change the TERM value on users' profiles because that would screw up their logons at the office or when using other telnet clients. The system as set up now has no trouble adjusting the TERM value depending on the emulation in use by the telnet client -- except when that telnet client is Microsoft's.
How about using a separate login when they are not at the office? Of course you could use a different emulator but I guess there are reasons you are avoiding that option. Have you tried HyperTerm Personal Edition? It allows selecting the ansi video type and setting the number of rows and columns. It is not the edition that is provided with XP, but is still free, and it works fine on my computer.
As it is, logging in as an ANSI device represents a loss of functionality, but one that is acceptable for the purposes for which I want to be able to use the MS telnet client. Using the ANSI emulation on a MS telnet client costs us wide screen displays, function key control, slave printing and other features of the IBM 3151 upon which the software is built.
And if I do manually change the TERM value from inside AIX, then I get the basic functionality I need from the telnet program.
But the users are not at liberty to make that change. Their profiles take them straight to the application menu, which looks like crap when rendered for a vt100.
I can replicate this problem from several Windows XP and Windows Vista PCs here, to half a dozen AIX and SCO boxes of various OS levels.
Additionally, I had a colleague at another firm replicate this problem using Windows XP and Windows 2000 clients onto several other AIX boxes. He also informed me that this problem has bitten him in the past as well.
If this telnet client does indeed support the four emulations it claims to, then the only thing I can think of is that it is identifying itself to AIX as something AIX doesn't understand. But I still need to figure out what that could be ...
That is strange as I can login with ANSI emulation and TERM displays as ansi. Is the connection straight to the computer via "dumb" switch or is there other hardware involved that may be messing with the transmission?
A Microsoft support rep skirted the question of why the four emulations all wind up looking like a vt100 to a Unix host by telling me to change the TERM value on the host..
"Michael W. Ryder" <_mwryder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:xkycj.80825$MJ6.32356@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxCharles Lavin wrote:Hi --As I mentioned in the MS newsgroup I have no problems getting this to work as you want. You mentioned different servers giving you the same results, is this also true with different PCs? Maybe trying a laptop that has not been changed from the default configuration.
I posted this to a managed Microsoft ng, but I'm getting nowhere.
Has anyone had any success using the MS telnet client as shipped in Windows XP to connect to an AIX box as anything other than a vt100 terminal?
According to telnet's own help, as well as several pages of docs I've found on the MS site, the MS telnet program supports four emulations: VT100, VT52, ANSI and VTNT.
The command "telnet -t ansi hostname" supposedly connects to the host using the ANSI emulation (which is what I need).
An alternate way to do this is with the telnet command "set term ansi".
However, four different AIX hosts (one AIX 3.2.5, one AIX 4.1, two AIX 5.2) set their TERM values to vt100 when I log in from the MS telnet client, no matter which terminal emulation I select on the telnet command line.
Other programs, such as TinyTERM and puTTY, don't have this problem setting up telnet sessions with these hosts.
Does anyone know how to get the MS telnet program to properly identify itself so that AIX sets it up as an ansi device?
I asked before if you could changed the .profile file for your login to set and export the TERM variable. Were you able to do this?
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