Re: Newbie looking for a UNIX
From: Bill Vermillion (bv_at_wjv.comREMOVE)
Date: 11/17/03
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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 05:35:01 GMT
In article <1UOtb.1452$iT4.126996@news20.bellglobal.com>,
John Eggert <finarfinjge@hotmail.com> wrote:
>boffy_b wrote:
>> OK, thanks for th advice. Pseudo-code is always funny, lol. I just
>> re-read my post, and I commend you for not slapping me about th face
>> with a wet badger.
>> BTW - Is it customary on usenet to reply below th original message?
>> I am
>> used to e-mail, and replying above th original.
>> Thankee
>>
>> boffy_b
For the RFC on Netiquette see RFC 1855. Lots of good guildlines
there.
>>>>I started out this with th
>>>>intention of asking people to recommend a free(has to be all free
>>>>software, none of your RedHat here) UNIX which can run most free
>>>>UNIX software(read: all free software which runs on gnu/linux, I
>>>>believe NetBSD is quite good at that?).
>>>
>>>
>>> The standard answer to this question is: Have a try and decide on
>>> your own. If you ask for recommendations in an excessive X-post,
>>> they will usually look like this:
>>>
>>> Since you are asking in the $OS group, we recommend $OS to you,
>>> since it has the following advantages:
>>>
>>> #include <advantages_$OS.h>
>The custom in most news groups is to bottom post. There are times when
>in-line posting is also appropriate, though if you do that, leave a
>blank line so the comment can be identified from the original post.
The custom used to be in line posting - replying to each paragraph
that needed a reply right after the pargraph appeared, just as if
you were talking with a person and commenting on things they said.
That's the way I learned back when I firt got on the 'net in '85.
>That being said, there are some groups where the majority of people
>top post. As a rule of thumb, if you suspect the majority of people
>prefer a unix style operating system, it is best to bottom post. If
>you start using the news reader programs from freebsd for posting,
>you will see they default to bottom posting.
Actually in line and editing excess text is prefered in many NG's
particulary those that get a bit technical.
>Also, I think you will find that in general the people in this
>group (comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc) are more polite than some
>other OS specific groups.
It's one of the few 'sane' groups left.
> I suspect the more informed of them (of which I do not include
>myself!!) are confident enough in their own intelligence that
>they don't need to mask it with belligerence.
>Finally, I'm curious about the RedHat comment. What "not free"
>software do they have in the distribution?
RH announced EOL for the 7.x and 8.x product to be 12/31/2003.
EOL on RH 9 is April 30, 2004. After that the retail boxes you see
will no longer be sold. There will be no Red Hat Linux.
It will be Red Hat Enterprise Linux, Red Hat Workstation Linux,
etc. The low end - the Workstation - carries a $149 [$179??]
per YEAR support/license.
The only free will be Fedora which RH will not support but will
be user supported. That is if I read the documentation on their
site correctly.
> Are you speaking of Stallman defined free or Oxford unabridged
>defined free? Because if it is Stallman defined, you will be
>hard pressed to find any operating system that meets that
>definition.
His Gnu/HURD was to be that - but it got so far behind the original
goals that Linux wound up being the closest. Stallman won't be
happy until everything is free and freely distributeable. At that
point even the $6/hr programmers from the 3rd world will have a
hard time making a living.
Bill
-- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com
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