Re: Primary Differences: FreeBSD/Linux
From: Tom Ryerson (no_at_spam.please)
Date: 03/02/04
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Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 04:49:05 GMT
Andrew Reilly wrote:
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> On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 20:13:04 +0000, Tom Ryerson wrote:
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>> David King wrote:
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>>> netcat has its own port in /usr/ports/net/netcat, so yes, it works
>>
>> Great news.
>>
>> Thanks to Vlad and Pete for the same info.
>>
>>
>> I've been reading the Handbook and run across some vaquely troubling things.
>>
>> 1. Csh seems to be the default shell, and I have been taught to avoid that
>> shell for scripts, which I use a lot.
>>
>> But I can simply use ash or bash, so that's not a real problem. I'm
>> just a little worried about understanding the docs...
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> Not a problem, IMO. Give yourself whatever shell you like (I use bash2,
> mostly due to inertia) and don't log in as root. I don't think that the
> docs will be a problem: even csh users hardly ever write scripts in it,
> they just like the command-line interface features. So you won't see
> funny for loop syntax. The most you're likely to encounter is setenv for
> environment variables, and it's pretty self-evident what they do.
Good news there. I really like ash, as long as I can use mc.
>
>> 2. Sendmail seems to be the default MTA. (dripping with tar from the
>> pits
>> at La Brea :-) I'm scared to death of sendmail. Don't even use an
>> MTA, just simple scripts to send mail to my ISP's smarthost and to
>> accept mail directly on non-standard ports from associates.
>
> You can (a) ignore it, or (b) remove it from your system, the next time
> you rebuild/update. (a) is accomplished by setting the rc.conf
> flag sendmail_enable="NONE". (b) is accomplished by setting the
> make.conf flag NO_SENDMAIL=TRUE, and then manually removing the dregs.
> There's a file /etc/mail/mailer.conf that can be used to re-route various
> mail functionality to other mailers, but I'm not sure exactly what uses
> this config file.
>
>> Do any of you use Exim?
>
> Some do, it's in ports. I use qmail, myself.
>
I remove software I don't use, but that doesn't seem to be a problem. Like
I said to Lowell, maybe I'll just put the time in and learn Sendmail. It's
everywhere, after all.
>> 3. Am I reading correctly? Default graphical install? I don't even know
>> if my mouse works!
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> Just a curses-style menu-based thing. No mouse needed. And as soon as
> the bare minimum install is done, you can leave it all behind and use the
> ports tree or package tools from a console command line. About the only
> thing that I find the installer useful for is initial disk geometry
> sensing and partitioning. I think that the command line tools have become
> more adaptive and useful of late, but they always used to require a
> calculator to get the sizes and offsets right---something that I always
> thought stupid, given that you're sitting in front of a computer that
> already knows all of the important numbers...
No kidding! That does seem foolish. I use cfdisk on Linux....
I appreciate the guidance, Andrew.
My fears allayed, I return to the Handbook and will probably send away for
the CDs pretty quick: On a dialup, you know....
Tom
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