Re: Not yet ready for FreeBSD
From: Torfinn Ingolfsen (tingo_at_start.no)
Date: 08/06/05
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Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2005 16:52:19 +0200
Al C. wrote:
> I've spent a number of years with Linux.
Good! I take it you have quite a broad experience, with several
different Linux distributions, like Gentoo, Debian, Ubuntu etc.
> I like the concept of FreeBSD but have not tried it.
>
> Why? Probably for the same reasons you've heard time and time again.
You mean that people are too
- lazy
- frightened
or just prefers to talk their mouth off about things that they have no
expereience with?
No, that can't be the reason.
> I want an install that leaves me with a complete operating environment... a
> KDE desktop, all the fonts I might need, sound and video working out of the
> box, and a simple means to update the system. Is FreeBSD there yet? Not
> from what I read in the handbook.
Ah, you have read the handbook at least. That makes you a theoretical
"engineer" (FreeBSD user), but still without hands-on experience.
> I don't want to have to spend three or four days trying to configure this
> beast!
and you don't even want to spend a couple of hours, or an afternoon to
find out if "this beast" is that difficult, or if it perhaps is easier?
Hmm, that doesn't sound like an intelligent, broad-minded, active and
curious person who takes initiative to me.
> Seem to me the only avenue is PC-BSD.... except this is still very much beta
> and I want something stable and solid.
First of all FreeBSD is really very easy to install and set up as a
complete system. Honest! (There are of course, sometimes difficult
hardware that requires a lot of helpt to get working. But these cases
are very minor in numbers).
Secondly, there are projects like PC-BSD (http://www.pcbsd.org/) and
DesktopBSD (http://desktopbsd.sourceforge.net/)
that aims to improve the install experience.
People who have time, energy and knowledge to contribute are very
welcome to help out these projects.
> I can wait. I'll have to wait. IF this community wants to increase the
> number of users of FreeBSD, this is what has to be done, IMO. Make it
> easy. Make it complete.
It is easy (quite easy). It is complete.
If you have peoplethat needs something easier - buy them a Mac mini. OS
X will have even newcomers going in about one hour.
For the rest of us, I prefer that people who want to use FreeBSD will
have to learn a little. It is the same as with cars; i wouldn't want
anyone without a driving license driving one.
> From what I read, you have a hell of a system. But it's also a hell of an
> install process... one I don't have time for.
When you find the time and energy to try it, you are welcome back to
FreeBSD.
-- Torfinn Ingolfsen, Norway
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