[Getting offtopic?] Solaris vs Linux vs FreeBSD on SPARC Machine (was: Re: Was: More FreeBSD Problems! Graphics are not working.)

On Mar 26, 5:27 pm, Dave Uhring <daveuhr...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:40:43 -0700, mike3 wrote:
On Mar 26, 8:28 am, Dave Uhring <daveuhr...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
OTOH Solaris Community Express Edition and Solaris Express Developer
Edition are available for UltraSPARC.

All are free for download and use.

Actually, now I've switched to Debian GNU/Linux instead, and I've had
much less hassle than with FreeBSD. (On FreeBSD, even after I got
the GFX working, the web browser would not come up and was giving
errors about "avahi-daemon" not running. Trying to get that up
gave more trouble, can't remember what exactly, though.) It was
getting
to be too much of a hassle so I just decided to switch to the Debian
instead. Debian seems to have more programs with it, at least in the
default install, and that's nice too. Plus it just seems to work
better.

LOL, I couldn't get a modern Linux kernel to boot on Debian Lenny on one
of my AMD64 machines so I installed FreeBSD-7.0 instead.


Well, it works, with kernel 2.6 series and boots up to desktop just
fine.
So why the laughing ("LOL")? I'm using the Debian Etch release,
not Lenny, by the way.

Why no Solaris??? For one, I was not sure how well the newest versions
would run on this relatively old (6 years) system. For another, it's
not

Any recent Solaris release will run well on that system, including the
Nevada builds.  I have Solaris 10 on my Ultra 60, an even older machine
than yours.


Really? Wow. How slow is the CPU in that thing?

easy to shut down (you have to run a special command as "root" to
shutdown,

"init 6" is the preferred reboot method, "init 5" to power down.  Neither
is any more difficult to remember than "reboot" or "halt" and both methods
provide the cleanest shutdown possible.


That's right.

there does not seem to be a "shutdown" button in the GUI.), and the
program

In GNOME (or JDS as it called in Solaris 10) there is a shutdown "button"
available in both x86 and SPARC versions.  Being root is not necessary.
The same button is available in GNOME or XFCE4 on FreeBSD and Linux.


Where do I find that? I'll have to look again. I've always shut down
at the
command prompt ("init X" as root) since I didn't see that.

bundle included appears limited. (How do I know all this? I've tried it
on my x86

Limited in what manner?  Almost any open source software that can be built
on Linux or FreeBSD can be built on Solaris.  And some Adobe products are
available natively on Solaris-SPARC which are not available for any BSD.


See below about the compile issues.

box.) I've also had issues trying to compile various Free and open-
source
programs on it (for example, trying to compile the GCC compiler version
4.3.0

I haven't tried 4.3.0 but 4.1.2 built without problems on AMD64.


Hmm. Maybe I should try the older version? Anyway, the error I was
getting was something like "bad ELF class: ELFCLASS32", suggesting
a 32-bit/64-bit clash somewhere. I posted a thread on the
"gnu.gcc.help"
newsgroup about my problem, by the way.

(I wanted the OpenMP features it had to aid in writing parallel programs
for my
quad core chip) has met with trouble.).

Well, the Sun Blade 100 is a single core UltraSPARC-IIi machine.  

Actually, I was talking about the Solaris system I run on my X86
machine, Intel
Core 2 Quad, which IS a quad-core CPU and hence I _do_ want the
OpenMP.
But if I'm running into trouble compiling GNU programs on Solaris X86,
why
should I not run into trouble compiling it on Solaris SPARC?

And the
Sun Studio 12 compiler suite is available free of charge.  Sun even
provides free patches for it.

Does it support the OpenMP I want for the X86 machine?
.

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